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A new kind of politics: Lefty Brownshirts target Republican donors

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  1. basso

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    via the NYTimes

    [rquoter]Group Plans Campaign Against G.O.P. Donors
    By MICHAEL LUO

    Nearly 10,000 of the biggest donors to Republican candidates and causes across the country will probably receive a foreboding “warning” letter in the mail next week.

    The letter is an opening shot across the bow from an unusual new outside political group on the left that is poised to engage in hardball tactics to prevent similar groups on the right from getting off the ground this fall.

    Led by Tom Matzzie, a liberal political operative who has been involved with some prominent left-wing efforts in recent years, the newly formed nonprofit group, Accountable America, is planning to confront donors to conservative groups, hoping to create a chilling effect that will dry up contributions.

    “We want to stop the Swift Boating before it gets off the ground,” said Mr. Matzzie, who described his effort as “going for the jugular.”

    The warning letter is intended as a first step, alerting donors who might be considering giving to right-wing groups to a variety of potential dangers, including legal trouble, public exposure and watchdog groups digging through their lives.

    The group is also hoping to be able to respond if an outside conservative group broadcasts a television advertisement attacking Senator Barack Obama, or another Democratic candidate, by running commercials exposing the donors behind the advertisements.

    Judd Legum, who was the research director for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign, has signed on to play the same role for Accountable America.

    The group has raised only $200,000, but Mr. Matzzie said he expected to collect more than $500,000 by next week, with an ultimate goal of $2 million.

    Mr. Matzzie said he had decided to focus exclusively on conservative donors because such an effort could be done cheaply.

    “It’s targeted,” Mr. Matzzie said. “We don’t need $25 million.”

    Mr. Matzzie recently served as one of the leaders of Progressive Media U.S.A., a group that was intended to lead a left-wing media effort in the presidential election, but the group folded several months ago after it failed to raise enough money, partly because of signals from the Obama campaign that donors should not give to outside groups.

    Mr. Obama and other Democratic officials have issued warnings about possible activities by outside groups like the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which helped sink Senator John Kerry’s presidential bid in 2004. But activity among outside conservative groups has been decidedly low-level.

    Still, Accountable America has singled out some major Republican donors, including Sheldon Adelson, a billionaire casino mogul, and Mel Sembler, a former ambassador and real estate magnate, both major donors to Freedom’s Watch, a conservative group.

    Calls to Mr. Sembler and Mr. Adelson were not returned, but Ed Patru, a spokesman for Freedom’s Watch, scoffed at Mr. Matzzie’s plan.

    “This idea sounds even more sloppily thought out than his last venture, which, of course, went belly-up for lack of financial support,” Mr. Patru said.

    “I doubt anyone will be intimidated by him,” he said, “but if it gives anyone pause, they are always welcome to give to Freedom’s Watch — all of our donors are entitled to complete anonymity by law.”

    Indeed, anonymity is a potential obstacle to the group’s efforts. Outside political groups organized as 501(c)4 entities, including Accountable America, do not have to disclose the names of their donors.

    Chris LaCivita, a Republican strategist who helped organize the Swift Boat effort, said Mr. Matzzie’s group was likely to have the opposite effect on potential donors, firing them up instead of discouraging them.

    “They’re not going to be intimidated by some pipsqueak on the kooky left,” Mr. LaCivita said. [/rquoter]
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    what's a brownshirt?
     
  3. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    It's what basso puts on when sitting down to search for a new angle to attack Democrats with. My understanding is that he has a collection in his closet.




    Impeach Bush.
     
  4. Roxfan73

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    brownshirt – (noun) - A term used for extreme trolling on internet bulletin board systems.
     
  5. basso

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    perhaps i should have said pinkshirts...
     
  6. pgabriel

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    basso calling democrats pink, dude seriously welcome to 1990 LOL

    still fighting that war southeast asia are we?
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Have you ever sat in a history class in your life?
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    no i didn't study nazis as much as you did


    have you ever not been a jerk, you could have just answered the question but I guess not being an ass is just to tough
     
  9. thumbs

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    Although "brownshirts" were before my time, this is a referrence to Nazi true believers.

    Hey, this story was in the New York Times. Let's wait to see whether there is any truth in it.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    thanks dude,

    some people's insecurities just can't allow them not to take an opportunity to prove they know something you don't.
     
  11. BigBenito

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    I'm a fan of the Browncoats... not so much brownshirts.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    It's the shorts that get to me.
     
  13. mc mark

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    This is so ridiculous! Everyone knows the Obamanation choice of color is sky blue with a splash of America Red!

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    Everybody knows that
     
  14. Apollo Creed

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    Geez, how many times do we have to see a thread started by basso with "a new kind of politics"?

    Yawn.
     
  15. vlaurelio

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    Friday afternoon story time with MLWOO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basso's A new kind of politics
     
  16. Apollo Creed

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    mlwoowned
     
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    ml mlwoo where are you?
    its firday afternoon now.

    ml mlwoo where are you?
    you got some stories to tell now.

    ML ML WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
    :D
     
  18. basso

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    yes we do!

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  19. pgabriel

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    okay seriously, basso wants to swift boat without reprecussions, basso, I know you don't respond to me for some reason when you continue silly little spats with other guys on this board, but I seriously would like to know what your problem is with this. what is wrong with people knowing who is behind negative attacks. what is wrong with full disclosure if these guys want to be involved in the political process. it seems you are the "brownshirt" for not wanting people to know who support these things.

    its not like the average everyday political donor donating a couple of hundred bucks to a candidate and you know that.
     
  20. mc mark

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    Damn basso! You're taking incoherent, floundering shots all over the place just like McCain these days.
     

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