FOX/Berman - Rockets extended an offer to Landry..

Just sign the papers and lets get to the playoffs already.

 

in the case of an "incentive" contract, the league will determine how "likely achievable" the incentives are, and the likely part will be counted towards the cap. of course, if at the year end, the player achieved those "unlikely" goal and received a higher salary, the league will adjust the team's cap number accordingly to reflect that.

so, if what I understood is right -- yes, from a CAP point of view, incentive contracts would not make a major difference in rox's cap situation; but of course, it always matters when we are just talking about how many $ landry will actually get and les will have to pay up.

 

It's not so much about the fact that they both talked to the media but HOW they have done so and the stuff they've said.

Morey's argument is pretty logical. Landry has a history of knee injuries which seriously affects his on-court performance, thus he wants the knee scoped out before he gives Landry his due rewards.

Buddy on the other hand, has claimed that teams are interested, but have subsequently turned up with no offer sheets. Next he has said that Landry could go to Europe, again no offer sheets. And the most ludicrous of all, he has claimed that his camp has the bargaining power where teams who are interested in Landry are concerned, which again, have led to ZILCH. A little too obvious that he's posturing and just driving up his/Landry's hype through the media no?

 

Why would any second year player with real potential consider Europe as an option?

What if said player broke out next season in the NBA? He would get a nice payday. In Europe, we expect Landry to play well.

I think Europe is an option for established NBA players (who have near peaked) and vets. They can get more money and try a new lifestyle.

 

the cap only limits your option and doesn't affect the rockets in the forseeable future because we're already over the cap. it doesn't matter because we don't have cap room anyways. Unless we want another player for the MLE this summer, which is unlikely, only the actual amount paid at the end is going to affect the luxury tax. In any event, Les Alexander is going to be the only one affected but not us fans.

 

Hope this is over soon.

 

Fortunately even with all the speculation and analysis here, I think this will be over soon, one way or another. I think that is the purpose of getting this offer on the table now.

To our benefit, I think Morey is dead set on going into training camp with possibly exactly who he and coach Adelman expect to be on the team with no surprises. I think they see this as the championship year barring injuries, and that therefore they want the members on the team to know their roles early and to be focused on contributiing in their roles.

I think once Morey signs Landry, Deke will sign shortly after that. After that is done, any last trade that may involve Head and/or Hayes will be done for that final spot at back-up center or back-up pg. This way, the team will be set before even entering training camp, giving them time to gel in training camp and pre-season.

After that, don't expect anything to even be discussed until the trade deadline is coming and we know exactly where we stand with the new team in place. If at that time, health is good, Steve has done well, and Dorsey is a back-up beast, don't expect any trades at the deadline either, just a championship run baby!

 

This is a good point. Further, what Morey did, by coming out and getting into detail with his comments about Carl's knee, violates the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Medical information whether positive or negative, cannot be broadcasted openly. This information is shared readily behind closed doors throughout front office peers in the NBA, but to come out in the media with comments about the specific condition of his knee is a big no no.

Carl and his agent have a pretty solid case if they choose to file a complaint with the Players Association.

That said with is knee the way it is, Carl is an unknown commodity until he has a scope. Yes this process has sucked the big one for both sides, but Daryl's job is to manage risk.

When you think of Carl's knee, think of Tim Hardaway. (minus the homophobia) Timmy's knees were shot thorughout his career, but he ended up playing like 15 seasons. Go figure. Ya just don't know what you're gonna get...

 

8.5M3YEARE,I THINK MORE THAN HAYES

 

LOL, no...

And if it was bush league, it was in response to Landry's agent constantly going to the press last summer. Baker absolutely won the battle of the presses last year w/ his outrageous complaints. Morey made sure it wouldn't happen again this year.

 

So, let me get this . . .

Because Baker comes out and broadcasts that the Rockets were trying to lower Landry's value by wanting him to get more tests on his knee, the Rockets did something wrong?

First of all, that is not saying anything about medical information other than the Rockets wanted more tests . . . Morey didn't say "Carl Landry has bad knees, nobody give him big money." I wouldn't want to sign a player to a big contract when you are not sure of his knees.

Baker screamed this to the top of the mountain. He made a huge deal of it, which probably hurt Landry more than anything.

Baker is annoying as hell. He is Al Sharpton in agent form. Everytime something happens it's an injustice to his client. The man is trying to bring him down. I'm surpised he hasn't pulled the race card on Morey.

I want this to go away one way or another so we don't have to listen to this guy anymore.

Baker was the one who made a big deal about it.

 

Nice thread

First off, personally I just wish Landry would go ahead and sign something and get this headache over for everyone. He's a hard working guy, that's made some big plays. But then again it was only a couple of months, not a whole season as the story is told. Now if I remember correctly, Landry kind of got cut on the first contract he signed with the Rockets and they short changed him a bit. But this kid wanting any more than 2.5 - 3 mil is crazy. There is no way he should be getting paid more than Scola, or only if the Rockets are expecting to give Scola a big raise. Scola is leaps and bounds a all around better player than Landry. Landry has potentail, but does have possible knee problems. Scola is what 30 yrs old or something? he's put in his time. Landry is still just a youngster who STILL needs to prove himself, prove than his knee is healthy, prove that he can be that same guy that had that killer instinct for those couple of months last year and can do it again.

Remember he was kinda of a unknown when he made the rotation and everyone would just leave him open and he would make them pay, But once teams get to know a player it becomes a different game.

So Carl, get what you can get and sign the contract, grab you work boots and get ready to play your heart out.

 

so any news on the contract size? I would prefer anything under 3yr/11M. The kid's got toughness and knows how to play. However I hope he is working on his jumper now, or that is the most he can get in his career.

Any contract offers to Mutombo?

 

3 sides to every story

Our side
Their side
And what's really going on

 

sounds about right.

source?

 

Or the fact that the only person you heard running to the presses was Baker. Morey answered questions in an interview.

No matter what, even if Morey was spreading terrible rumors about Landry, he still didn't know what was up with his knees. That's why he was saying to get tests. Why wouldn't Baker just have Landry do it instead of making a huge fuss if his knees were fine?

You still didn't respond at all to my original post.

 

Word...

Let's hope this doens't get drawn out, Favre like...

 

8 mill for 3 season w/ the 3rd year being a player/team option.

This gives Landry good money & if he wants his BIG pay day he can have it, 2-3 years from now.

No one will give him the money he wants right now so play your ass off & get the money later on.

 

Scola needs a major pay raise. I mean, it's just not fair with all the Nenes and Kenyon Martins of this league. Ahh, how could I have forgotten Rashard? And Ben Wallace. The list could go on and on...

 

this baker is a f**king joke has he ever done this before, he is so lucky that the rockets would still offer landry something with the shananagans(how ever you spell it) hate that a hole i hope landry fires his ass.