Who/what can you trade Head for and why is he/it more useful to Rockets than Head?

i think hes a perfect 3 string shooting guard.

 

I concur.

CH made some very good points in the topic post. At that salary, we are not gonna get someone better than Head.

1+ million for a close to 40% 3-point shooter? I'd take it. Especially since Head has proven he can score and create a little when given the chance to step in for guys like Tmac/Shane.

Now his playoff choke jobs are another issue. Much as I'm mad at his disappearing acts, objectivity still states that so far he's only faced Utah in the playoffs, which might just be a bad matchup for him.

 

I thought this was another lets trade Head thread. I didn't read the OP's post.

I apologize.

 

There will still be a decision to be made with Luther and his future with the Rockets. It can be delayed for a while, but eventually it will have to be made.

With Francis:

Code:

<B>Ten Player Rotation</B>
Alston        	Brooks
McGrady     	Barry
Artest        	Battier
Scola	        Landry
Yao	        Deke

<B>Deep Bench</B>	
Francis	
Hayes	
	
<b>IR - NBDL</B>
Harris	
Dorsey	
Luther	

<hr>
Without Francis:

Code:

<B>Ten Player Rotation</B>
Alston        	Brooks
McGrady     	Barry
Artest        	Battier
Scola	        Landry
Yao	        Deke

<B>Deep Bench</B>	
Luther	
Hayes	
	
<b>IR - NBDL</B>
Harris	
Dorsey	
?	

I don't see room on the Active Roster for both Luther and Steve. If so, then it means that somebody in front of them is hurt or the roster is mysteriously tilted to play <I>Small Ball</I>. Steve's status will have a huge impact on Luther's immediate future.

 

I think you make some excellent points and observations. Yet I think our best bet will be to package Head and Hayes possibly for another player at back-up center or back-up pg. If New Orleans may lose Pargo, maybe they would be interested in a trade, although admittedly I haven't yet looked at the feasibility of that on the trade machine; it was just a passing thought when typing this.

Other than that, I see Head probably making the team and riding the pine all year.

 

Head only will shine once in a while as long as Yao is on the court. So no wonder he choked so bad last year (okay, he choked the years before as well)

 

We need Luther Head.

 

and if anyone remembers, in his second regular season, he was pretty clutch, he made most of his points in the fourth quarter. so thats what i mean hes a perfect 3rd string guard. and the regular season is a long grind with injuries (t-mac. possibly barry). and hes highly unlikely not going to play in the playoffs

 

and for the last time, luther does have value, yes and im saying it, MORE THAN NOVAK EVER DID. even though he did bad in the playoffs hes more proven than novak

 

Just to further my comment.

 

the bids that will make me agree to trade luther head is a kid whoever is able to tell the difference between asts and pts.I assume luther can't do that or he would score more than 4 in last year's series againset damn jazz.Luther made 4pts + 4 asts in that series,but that's his total contribution in all the 5 games he appeared on the court.

 

I highly doubt Steve Francis will be playing so you keep Head as an 10/11th man. He's shown to be able to fill in okay against lesser opponents when Tmac has been out.

 

i think no team want him and fee back a valubale condition.then morey want him play better before midseason,that can be more valuable trasaction

 

Why all of us want to trade him? Because we all believe that Morey should use this trade to give us another surprise.

So,do the trade,not because we don't believe Head,but we believe Morey very much!!!

 

I would rather keep his expiring contract until the deadline. You never know what Morey will be able to pull this year at the deadline.

 

I think if Luther is to get traded, it will be around the trade deadline in February. As an expiring contract, Head could be included in a package to upgrade the backup PG spot. But more likely, if Morey trades Head in a salary dump to get under the luxury tax threshhold (just as he traded Snyder last February), a deadline deal (as opposed to a deal over the summer) would facilitate another team's willingness to take on Luther's salary (since they'd be paying him less because his salary is prorated). Plus, if the Rockets had to throw cash into the deal to cover Luther's salary, a deadline deal would lessen the financial blow to Les Alexander's wallet.

That being said, I agree that Luther Head (as affordable depth at the guard positions and an expiring contract) should NOT be traded. If he provides some decent depth and actually contributes next year, great. If he stinks and never gets off the bench, no big deal; the Rockets can simply let him walk after next year. Remember, if the Artest situation works out well and he is re-signed, the Rockets will likely find themselves DEEP into luxury tax territory next season. Trading Head plus others for another long-term contract will not help the Rockets any in this department.

Bottom line: I think the Rockets keep Luther around. If they are going to trade him, it will probably be in February, not August.

 

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Originally Posted by Carl Herrera
I kept on reading people commenting on Daryl Morey must dump Head next or express surprise that he wasn't dealt before Novak was. I can't figure out why. Specifically, I can't figure out how dumping Head for either (1) a player that another team would reasonably trade for Head or (2) no salary coming back (maybe some draft considerations) would help the Rockets.

I see three options:

1. Stand pat: You pay Head $1.9 million to be injury insurance to Ron/Tracy/Barry/Batter(though Shane is rarely injured). Head has at least proven adequate to get some regular season minutes and knows the system. No, he isn't great, but I don't see how having him on the bench deep in the depth chart hurt the team if he doesn't play. If there is an injury and he is in line to get minutes, I don't see how not having Head to turn to helps the team. Presumably, if there is a better option than Head on the roster, Adelman would give that guy minutes and Head won't be there to hurt the team. If there isn't a better option than Head, then not having Head wouldn't help since you would be turning to a worse option.

2. Trade him for another player: The people who are screaming "GIVE HEAD!" never said who they can get Head for. So, if you have a target in mind, tell me who that guy is and how that guy would be more useful than Head. As far as I know, given his salary, the guy you get for Head is not going to be anything other than a deep-bench type and will be as flawed as Head, if not more so.

3. Trade him for no player coming back: You save Les some dough, but how does not having Head as insurance help the team? Any draft consideration you get will be minimal. Again, neither cash savings or future draft consideration you get will help the team win this year.

Of course, there is simply cutting him and eat the salary... or negotiate a buyout for part of that salary. Both would be just worse version of option 3.


Explain to me how trading Head helps the Rockets.


Agreed!
Head has was more value than give credit for and in the overall outlook on the team, he only makes team better. How many times is your 12th man on the bench, be a guy thats been with the team several years and a couple of coaches, ran the point at times, hit some big threes in clutch moments and part of the Team USA second unit. Luther and Yao do have some chemistry as they have been together a while, remember those back door cuts or those big 3's in the fourth. Head did better in the JVG offense, but struggled in the more free flowing Adelman system. Hopefully with a second year and some time with the USA squad he could have a big season. Plus his play time depends on how well Stevie bounces back and I personally don't expect to see Stevie back until between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So Head get a few weeks head start on Stevie which ='s more playtime. Luther did beat out Steve last year, which at the time I couldn't figure out why. And for whoever doesn't play well or fit, there's still the trade deadline.

 

i like head dont quote me... but i wish we would of kept greene and traded head, im sure we offered it and kings declined greene has more potential and upside...

 

Luxury tax is calculated using the end of the regular season's payroll. That means whatever happens to Luther will depend on the re-signing of Landry and Deke. If bringing them back pushes us into the luxury tax, we're probably dumping Luther mid-season to any team that will take his salary off our hands (injuries notwithstanding). If not, we might try to package him or just keep him. It all depends on Carl and Deke.