Why keep trying to change the topic. It's just a simple question. Can someone be a considered a contributor to the society if he stay away from politics? Yes or No?
Another with half a brain can see how the point was made. Someone said be thought Yao could become a contributor of the society after his basketball career is done, whether you agree with this or not is another question. My problem is the reason that he used to explain why he disagreed. What does that have anything to do with MLK or Malcolm X? Can you be a contributor to the society without talking about politics or without getting assassinated? Is this really such a tough question for you?
dude BigEZ mentioned he's 'not like malcolm or mlk' because the topic Yao being a humanitarian about was not as controversial as the topics MLK and Malcolm were dealing with. the FBI had taps on MLK, Malcolm scared people. They were for civil rights which was not popular with the government. he's comparing the degree of political contributions. People were dying for civil rights in America, Yao hasn't touched a topic that controversial. you can write english well, but you sure can't understand it.
BigEZ, certain posters here just don't understand your point. you may have to make extremely basic like: MLK - contribution level to society - ending segregation - 10 Yao - contribution level to society - humanitarian aid - 4
The topic is about whether Yao can become a contributor to the society. You can be a contributor to your society by volunteering for community works. You can be a contributor to your society by helping to serve turkey lunch to the homeless people in Thanksgiving. You can be a contributor to your society by helping to raise donations for charities. What do you not agree with?
that's not big EZ's point. we are talking about his post not yours right? like I mention before, he should have broken it down extremely basic for you guys who go angry on the yao stuff all the time. helping homeless people -level of contribution of society - 2 ending segregation - level of contribution to society -10 changing the way an entire race of people thinks in society -9 this is his point. yao will never try anything at a level 9-10.
Its funny how all the good skilled players have their toughness questioned yet no one seems to question the toughness of the "crap" players. No one questions the toughness of Kenyon Martin or Kendrick Perkins, but the fact of the matter is that they're both unskilled players and the only reason why they seem "hard" is because they have tattoos and make "angry" faces, those two scrubs couldnt even hit a jumpshot if their lives depended on it. The ramifications of yao getting in a physical fight are far greater than the "average" scrub in the NBA.
LOL, I have been trying to break it down extremely basic for someone with the screen name Tinman who goes angry and sensitive about the yao stuff all the time. This is the post which started the discussion. How did 'level' come up in the discussion. Are you saying that only 'level 9' or 'level 10' can be considered contributors to society while 'level 1' or 'level 2' cannot? Are you trying to be funny? Maybe you found it convenient to use it as an excuse to derail the topic? If you can't read, he said "Yao contributing to society after he retires". Does it take someone goes as far as MLK to be regarded as a contributor to society? Is this simple question really that difficult for you to answer?
1. That's not EZ's point for the 1millionth time 2. obviously its not easy for you to comprehend other people's posts why are you asking me these questions? It's between you and BigEZ, i'm just trying to translate for you since you don't understand his point of saying that athletes of today's level's contribution are not on the same level as that of say MLK. if it were me, I would make it really easy for you like. who is Yao? 1. Yao Ming 2. Tmac 3. They both greatest Yaos!
It would be really nice to see Yao learn from Deke how to put out some elbows, especially after rebounding the ball so that people don't even think about trying to take the ball from him after he has secured the rebound. I can't remember anyone trying to grab a ball from Deke without being hit in the mouth with an elbow or going flying to the ground from muscle. If Yao would take this approach, certainly someone would try to challenge him, but Yao could then take the high road as if he didn't realize that he was hurting someone, cause Artest will be backing him up as the bad boy and who from another team really wants to fight with Artest? Yao would probably get a lot of fouls early on in the year and have to sit some extended minutes, but it would set the tone for the rest of the year and give him room to operate. Eventually the refs would be forced to accept his new style of play in order to not be critized for taking Yao out of every game. The end of Yao's softnest! (Or he could just have a child with his wife, that would end the question about his softnest. )
I simply stated player don't stand for anything because the money is so great that they don't want to risk losing endorsements and not being well received by everyone. Jordan,Tiger,Kobe,Lebron and even Yao have a strong voice and could force change, yet they just cash checks, smile and toe the company line. Jim Brown, Ali, Russell, Kareem, Dick Gregory, and guys in the 60's and 70's talked about change and walked for change eventhough they had a lot to lose because they made less money. Ali could have went to the military, pulled a Joe Louis and kept getting paid. Instead, he spoke up, got his title taken, bank account frozen, and couldn't even get a license in his prime because he stood up. That's why he's recognized as the greatest athelete of all time. Ali can go all over the world and get love from Africa to China to everywhere. He transcended sports because of his stance. A lot of the guys are just puppets. Yao is still soft, but we can still win with him.
I understand you bigez! Standing up against government and social injustice at the risk of losing your money and in some cases your life is a DIFFERENT LEVEL from doing charity work for society.
Yeah, that's my point. As the big guy, you have to set the tone early. When you do it, everyone else falls in line. In the finals, the celts set the tone with posey and garnett and everyone else just followed. No layups were in effect and that was it. La on the other hand, guys were giving up and 1's and not finishing strong on the offensive end. Yao does not get his money's worth on fouls. He get blocking calls and tick tack touch calls. If you're going to get a foul, foul the guy hard and don't let the guy finish. If you're going to get a charged, drop the shoulder and put in in someone's chest and put them in the camera row. If yao has that rep, guys would stop taking charges and would think twice about challenging him. How many times have guys taken charges from Shaq when he put his shoulder down? How many guys stood in mailman's way with the knees up? All I'm saying is, get your money's worth. Challenge the shot because standing with your arms up will probably result in a blocking foul. The refs always favor the aggressor. You can be diplomatic and all, but when the game gets physical, you have to respond. Getting 13 rebs in the last 2 games and less than 1blk a game, isn't being physical.
I choose 2 just to get on the nerve of a sensitive brat aka Tinman. You are the one who seems to be never able to comprehend my question. Do you consider someone who serves hot meal in the Salvation Army on the Thanksgiving day a contributor to society? Yes or No? What? you found yourself said something dumb and now you want to stay away from it? The easier way is just not to read this thread again. Because I have to keep replying to you if you keep replying to me. Fair enough?
yeah congrats! I thought BigEZ's point wasn't too hard to figure out ... unlike some other people here yes or no no or yes yao or tmac ron or ron ron
Now you are trying to act dumb. You really like this game? manhore mentioned contributor to society. bigez mentioned MLK. I questioned if it take the achievement of MLK to be considered a contributor to society and used someone volunteered in the SA as example. Yes or No?
