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What Should We Spend Out MLE On Now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by matty101, Jul 30, 2008.

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  1. pbthunder

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    I don't think you are right at all about minimum salaries not counting against the luxury tax. Question #11 in the NBA Salary Cap FAQ has nothing to do with this - it talks about a player's maximum salary. Question #14, OTOH, includes this:

    Question #16 is about the LT, and these are the adjustments:

    I'm not saying you can't be right, but I can't see how. Which question backs up your point?
     
  2. pbthunder

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    I don't really have to have an upgrade to Rafer, but I would like his backup to be about as good as he is. I would be very happy if Steve can be that guy.

    As far as what Morey will really do, I think he will probably (though he might not) go ahead with the plan on Landry, but I see him guarding his chips until a really good deal comes by, and maybe not even for a position we want to fill. I.e., if he sees a super deal for a PF, and only a so-so deal for PG, I think he'll pull the trigger on the PF deal, and make a "minor deal" next year to adjust things.
     
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    Half on Bonzi Wells and Half on Carl Landry
     
  4. BMoney

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    I would still try to resign Landry and keep a portion left for any emergencies that might come up. Looking down the road, Landry could replace Scola as an offensive force at the power forward spot, if necessary. Players like JR Smith and Hermann are intriguing, but they are kind of redundant on this roster.
     
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    IMO, in recent years, the backup C position has become less and less important. Around the league, none of the backup centers are really forces to be reckoned with, so all it comes down to for that position is team defense and rebounds, which I believe Chuck Hayes or even Landry for spot minutes can offer. If Dorsey's defense and rebounding is what the Rockets are hoping for, then add him to the mix as well.

    In my mind, the ideal situation would be to split the MLE between Landry and Carlos Arroyo, who is a more-than-capable backup PG. Of course, the real ideal would be to have Francis back in shape and playing condition, but having a veteran like Arroyo couldn't hurt either.
     
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    Why do ppl keep mentioning bonzi..... Dude bonzi is not even in the picture...We are stacked at the wings now.. We don't need him....We need a solid backup pg and a solid backup reliable C
     
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    I look at Rafer and all the minutes he's logged and I start worrying bout his health.

    He had never shown signs of breaking down till last yr. Even tho he's a warrior I would focus on getting him a backup that can keep Skip fresh. Backup 5, while important, 2 me is a luxury. We have capable defenders 2 step in there and man the fort somewhat. Especially n 2day's NBA where the legit Center is as hard 2 find as Paris Hiltons morality.

    I concentr8 on a capable PG (white chocolate doesnt look 2 bad) becoz Barry, who some believe can log minutes there, has also showed signs of breaking down last yr w/ SA
     
  9. BimaThug

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    Take another look at Question #11. It talks about BOTH minimum and maximum salaries.

    Also, take a second look at Question #16. It says that minimum salaries for rookies and one-year vets are deemed to be increased for luxury tax purposes to the two-year vet minimum. Taking this in combination with the quote above from Question #11, it appears that the same two-year vet designation holds true for more seasoned veterans.
     
  10. pbthunder

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    Dude, you are usually right on the mark, if a little hard to follow at times. On this one, though, with all respect, you are lost.

    Salary cap and Luxury tax are limits on the team. Question 11 has to do with minimum and maximum salaries for the player. It has nothing to do with either salary cap or luxury tax.

    Question #16 makes no reference to rookies and one-year vets. It says:
    And, as you say, it increases the salary for luxury tax purposes. There's nothing in there that would decrease Mutombo's hit against the LT.
     
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    pbthunder, I understand the difference between the salary cap and player salaries. My point is that the same principles apply under the CBA that the league does not want to discourage teams from signing only young players to league minimum deals.

    If anyone knows the correct answer (as opposed to speculation), please feel free to chime in.

    In the meantime, we'll have to agree to disagree.
     
  12. dragonz

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    I like Pargo, I think his offense skill is very help to this team since it is likely we are gona have our offense start from 2 with Tmac and Brent Barry on the team. But I dont think we can get him tho.
     
  13. hooroo

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    Sign Landry to a contract starting at $2.5M for 3 to 4 years.

    When he is eligible to be traded...

    Landry for Sean May (bust/salary dump/expiring) + 2009 1st round draft pick
     
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    This whole year their was countless missed lay ups by our 4's Scola, [hold mt breath going up for a lay up chuck hayes], Harris, wells at times; however landry proved to be the best finisher around the rim until his injury. With Dorsey on the roster does he now have the title as the rockets instant thunder around the rim. WHo is the best finisher around the rim the Landry after the injury or Dorsey. Cause in my opinion that what the rockets need to spend their money on their will be tons of backdoor cuts that will have to be dunks playing with Yao and ron ron. Who is going to be our finisher? :eek:
     
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    We need a backup PG.

    Another big would be good too if Landry leaves.
     
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    Scola's FG% was over 50%.
     
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    nah, rox just need some good luck charms.

    Sign sam and horry for vet min.
     
  18. BrooksBall

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    It sounds like Bima is right. If Mutombo signs for the league minimum for a player of his tenure, the league will reimburse the Rockets for the difference between the value of Mutombo's contract and the league minimum for a two-year player. Additionally, only the value of the league minimum for a two-year player will count toward the team's salary (and the luxury tax as well since that is based on team salary).

    If Mutombo wanted anything more than the league minimum, I assume that the league no longer reimburses the team for the difference mentioned above and the full value of the contract counts toward the team salary.

    Therefore, if Deke accepts the league minimum for a player with his experience, it would mean tremendous savings for the Rockets versus a contract that was worth even $1 more since, in the latter scenario, there would no longer be any reimbursement from the league while the full value of the contract would count toward team salary.
     
  19. pbthunder

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    It's not speculation, it's english (or english/legalese), and you haven't found anything in the Salary Cap FAQ to back up what you're saying. What the league wants is one thing; we are talking about what's in the rules.
     
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    Henny Penny didn't know that thinking doesn't make things so
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