McCain: Pakistan is beyond the Gates of Hell

hahah that was funny.

Its all bull crap. These politicians just say stuff. He should have been caught a long time ago. They just tell us Americans what we want to hear but they'll never catch him.

 

I don't see this as really negative for McCain - it's hypothetical and ya know what, respecting Pakistan as an ally isn't bad foreign policy.

 

Pakistan isn't all that strong of an ally.

 

that's a matter of debate.

 

You're right. But Obama has faced similar rhetorical issues.

I doubt even Obama can get away with launching an attack on Pakistan - especially after Bush has just done it.

The opportunity to get Bin Laden, or the best ones, have passed. The reality of geopolitics must take hold - and realize that the relationship with Pakistan and the outcome of that nation may be far more important than the capture of bin Laden.

I know that no one can agree to that or echo it - but I do believe that it's the hard cold truth.

A "contained" bin Laden is far better than a destabalized and fanatical Pakistan.

 

This guy is on the money

 

Then let's debate it. Pakistan has signed truces with Al-Qaeda allies and the Taliban allowing them to operate freely in the regions between Pakistan and Afghanistan. They aren't able or willing to stop them there.

As a result terrorists and the Taliban have been able to gain ground in AFghanistan causing the U.S. forces to have to abandon posts, retreat, and give up territory that we once controlled. Pakistan isn't a true democracy and is under control of the kind of dictatorship we are supposed to be against. They have been peddling nuclear technology to unfriendly nations all the while.

We don't need allies like that. An extremist Pakistan isn't all that likely even if the current govt. is gone, and extremists haven't done well and lack support in politics of Pakistan, so it isn't likely that they would be the ones to take over.

If the Bush administration or an Obama administration is able to strike terrorists inside Pakistan and the Pakistani govt. won't do what it takes, then we need to protect ourselves and take the terrorists out. We've done it a few times already, and there is no reason to stop doing it now.

 

You cannot say that you WILL catch the guy, and then in the next couple of sentences, sit there and say, "Well, we'll catch him, but we can't go into Pakistan."

What are you going to do, claim that he's cheating, and not playing by the rules when he goes into Pakistan(or stays there), and you can't catch him.

That's first grade rhetoric. It's flat out stupid.

Bush didn't even put his foot in his mouth this many times during the campaign trail. Look how his presidency has turned out.

 

they are a nuclear power, there is a reason the US never had troops there it's all bullcrap they can't do anything

 

Let me assure you that Pakistan's nuclear power has no effect on the US when it comes to going to war.

Pakistan's nuclear program is way behind that of the Western Nations.

However, Pakistan being a nuclear power still does play an effect when it comes to world politics and so yes maybe that is why the US will never go to war with them.

In terms of Democracy Pakistan is not a true democracy but it is also not a true dictatorship. Atleast they attempt to be democratic unlike Saudi Arabia, Iran, and etc.

Let me tell you guys another thing. No one and I mean no one wants to go fight a war in that Northwest Tribal Region of Pakistan. Do you know that it is one of the most dangerous locations in the world? Look it up people. Its called the Khyber Pass. I assure you that niether the US nor Pakistan want to go into that hell hole.

 

So uh.... you assure me Pakistan having nuclear arms has no effect and then what, forgot what you wrote?

 

DUDE..LOL when it comes to nuclear weaps how big they are isn't much of the problem. The amount of damage one could cause is unimaginable..

one country fires a 50 meg while one fires a 10 meg it will still be catastrophic

 

Also have you ever heard of MAD? There is a reason that the cold war was never actually a war, simply due to that principle.

 

Let me rephrase that.

It will have an effect but what i meant to say is that there is no way the missiles from Pakistan will ever reach the United States and also I dont think the Pakistanis have any way to intercept the missiles that would be thrown at them.

The Pakistanis nuclear weapons are for the sole purpose of defending itself from India.