I got my understanding from this article http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5130595.html Maybe I just misunderstood it, please clarify more if I did.
^^^^ Also want to add only 1st round signings are allowed to exceed the cap. So I don't think 2nd round picks apply to that rule, like i said before I could be wrong so please correct me if I am wrong.
at this point, i'd offer a contract that is quite lower than any of your suggestion if i were morey. landry is nothing special. he imo is worth no more than 2.5 mils per. a 3/7mil type of deal would be fair for both sides.
are you sure that over the cap and being in lux tax territory is the same thing? or am i confusing with something here?
If true,that shows to me how desperate some Euro teams are to attract talent back to them hoping that he will comeback somewhere near his best despite his health issues. Maybe Landry does have a chance with some European team after all.
That article simply refers to the fact that the Rockets, rather than signing Landry to the typical one- or two-year minimum deal for second round picks, wanted to INSTEAD use a small portion of the MLE to sign Landry. This way (like they did with Novak), the Rockets could add a third year (team option)to Landry's deal. However, when Francis signed for the remainder of the MLE, it both took away the MLE contract option AND took up one more roster spot. Second rounders are typically signed to the minimum player salary. Under the CBA, teams can go over the salary cap to sign players to the league minimum salary. This is called the Minimum Player Salary Exception. Without it, any team with multiple max salary players would not be able to field a team.
The biggest thing is that its up to his agent to establish his value whether here or in Europe. He keeps saying he has offers but where are these offers? I wish someone would come up figure so we could start from there and get this done. The fact remains that no one is going to break the bank for Landry (it would be foolish to do so anyway). If other teams could snatch him up for a minimum exception they would sign him in a minute because he has great value. But his body of work is too limited to go for a big money long term contract. So the stand-off continues until someone blinks and the closer we get to September the more I think its going to be Landry's agent.
This is clearly an attempt to drive interest in Landry so that people will bid on him. Honestly, I wish someone would make like a 3-5 million dollar offer that we can match or not match already. But I think other teams have the same issues about his injuries that we do.
that is exactly right. and if landry has serious all star potential, then at least over half of the nba-ers do. lol.
The issue IMO was not about "protecting the Rockets investment". The "investment" happened before a lot of other unforseen events, particularly and most crucially the landing of our new power forward, Luis Scola. After all those moves the smart plan is not to do your course of action based on what you payed, your investments, but based on the current situation (just because a stock falls and you lost money on it doesn't mean you don't want to sell a bad stock--judge the situation by its face). The contract difficulties had to do with how things looked later in the summer or early fall, not an investment done on draft day. Between the Francis signing, bringing back Deke, the trade of James + that other fellow for Howard, and then Scola + Butler for VSpan--it was not at all clear there was a roster spot for Landry, we were already up to like 18. Further, Mike Harris had even way outperformed him in summer league. I don't think the Rockets wanted to guarantee much money (let alone 2 years) because they thought there was a reasonable chance they would cut him. Sure in hindsight a 2 year guaranteed deal for the minimum would have worked out great, but nobody had signs Landry would play that well. It is like a 1/10 chance a 2nd rounder plays as well as Landry did. Heck, I was skeptical Landry could make the team.
Well, the Rockets actually paid almost the same moeny as Landry's 2 year salaries combined to acquire Landry's pick. To think Mike Harris can be a rotational player on any playoff roster is crazy. Harris is a perpetual mismatch for the opponent teams. It's very rare to sign an early 2nd round pick to a 1 year contract. It's because the money is so minimal in NBA standard. Anyway, now Morey has a problem to take care of and it ends up cost the Rockets at least a couple of millions.
Yes. You didn’t. That’s probably because technically CD was still in reign when we drafted Novak. Of course you could still blame Morey for that. But unless you know for sure it was Morey pulling the string behind the scene, it would only make you look stupid. Now wouldn’t it? There were 2nd rounders that turned out steals. But there were A LOT more that couldn’t even make the team. Of course 1 yr deal for 31st overall is rare. But didn’t most people call Morey reaching when he picked Landry 1st in the 2nd round? You were probably one of those guys that called for Morey’s head at draft night. So he gave 1yr guaranteed deal to a supposed “mid 2nd rounder”. What’s the big deal? And like others have mentioned, it’s not like Rockets didn’t want to add a team option for 2nd year. But Baker didn’t agree. What can you do? Hindsight is always 20/20. Unfortunately GM’s can’t use hindsight to make the decisions.
Can you blame him? Either he takes the Rockets qualifying offer of 750k, or he can go to Europe and get a lucrative contract (tax-free with housing and cars and other necessities paid for) while playing in some world-class cities. He's gone, at least we have Scola/Dorsey though.
you're talking like the europeans are all idiots. news flash - they aren't. and it's not like any nba-er can get a lucrative deal any time, either.
IMO If the Rockets were to give Landry the MLE wouldn't he be making significantly more money than Louis Scola? Don't you think that's absolutely nuts to pay a backup 4 more money than the starter?
I have to agree with you. The balancing effect of Euro league is way overrated in this Childress deal. Sure, Europe seems to be a pretty good solution for those 2nd Tier Restricted Free Agents, but it is unlikely for some unproven player like landry to get a big pay day, especially with a hurted knee
