I don't why Morey just didn't sign him to a 1 year deal and the 2nd year team option. This was the worst move I think Morey has made in his tenure as GM.
because at the end of those two seasons he would have been an unrestricted free agent. which means he could have walked and we would have lost him for nothing. here he's a restricted free agent and the control is in our hands, the only way we lose him without having the opportunity to match is if we: a) spend a portion of the MLE on someone else (which we won't do until he's signed) b) he goes to play in europe (sorry carl, you haven't done nearly as much as childress in the nba) his agent is bluffing, and he's an idiot.
Where are all the offers for Landry? I have yet to see one (Euro or Non-Euro) I'm calling his agents bluff & so is Morey!
But if Morey did sign him for 2 yrs, and he turned out a bust or broke his knee during the season, you’d still be calling for his head. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. You’re just a hater, plain and simple.
Yes, I agree with you 100%. European'teams need a player like Dirk who can shoot, pass etc, Landry is more a NBA player.
In hindsight it was a bad move, but at the time he was a big question mark because he was coming off an injury. Now we come into this season with the same problem only now we know that he's shown flashes of being very good. But, Landry is only as effective as his athleticism, his jumper is decent, but without his explosivness he's just another undersized power forward. I like him, and I hope this gets resolved, but there is absolutely no reason to overpay for a guy with a rather limited game, we're not the Knicks.
I really doubt this is the case. I think the point leebigez is trying to make is that Landry and Buddy are not the only ones playing hardball. I have no idea what the rockets have offered Landry.
You are right! Even Euro team will have less and less money as time goes along. Plus, for a sophomore second stringer whose knees are suspect, I doubt Euro team will pay that much for Landry anyway.
Definitely agree with the knee being suspect... We shouldn't be overreacting if he does leave for a Euro contract, IMO, Landry still has a lot to prove in this league before he becomes a legit player
"Standard" second round pick deals either involve a 2-year deal with the second year being a team option (the only way to get a third year on such a deal is to dip into the MLE, which is what the Rockets did with Novak), and with the first year only partially guaranteed. In many cases, the partial guarantee only springs into effect if the player is still on the roster after a certain date. However, for some of the top second round picks (such as Landry, who was selected with the first pick of the second round), those guarantees are somewhat larger. From all reports, Buddy Baker was asking for AT LEAST a fully guaranteed first year, and likely demanded a fully guaranteed second year as well. At the time, the Rockets had about 17-20 guaranteed contracts on the roster, including Scola, Hayes, Butler and Reed all able to play the same position as Landry (let alone the non-guaranteed deal of Mike Harris, who played very well at the PF position in the summer league). Morey did not want to commit essentially DOUBLE whatever he guaranteed to Landry in Les's money, since any dollar spent on player salary was basically going to put the team into luxury tax territory. Sure, in hindsight, maybe Morey should have fully guaranteed Landry's salary for two years (no third year, since the entire MLE was already spent on Scola and Francis); but Morey's reasoning was sound at the time. Lay off of Morey on this one already.
Yep. If you go back to this time last year on this forum almost everyone didn't even want to sign Landry after his performance in the SL. I'm sure Morey had a tough sell to Les once a deal was tentatively in place. I think Morey deserves a hell of a lot of credit for bringing him in. If anyone's honest about what would have happened last year without Landry, then you have to believe there would have been nothing historic about it. And we probably lose game 3 to the Jazz too.
I didn't call for his head when novak got his 2 yr deal. Why? Guys in the 2nd rd are boom or bust at low cost. What's 700k on a 58m payroll. Arenas got 2 yrs plus a option. Boozer got the same and both guys were 1st rd talents drafted in the 2nd rd. If Morey would have given him 2 yrs plus the option and Landry scrubbed out, it would have been expected for a 2nd rd pick. What the argument was about was pennies and principle. Go check and see how many 2nd rd rookies get a 1 yr deal. Especially the 1st guy in the 2nd rd. Chalmers just got a 3 yr deal because they think he's going to start for them. Its covering you bases
That was Buddy Bakers work. It doesn't cost the Rockets to add team options or non-guaranteed years which they would have wanted.
Exactly, Morey blew it on the Landry deal big time, leaving him last in line to sign. In my opinion he based some of his signing (short term deal and not alloting any money for Landry) on his summer league play which he publicly said was dissapointing. That blew up in his face. He gambled and lost. Now the rockets MLE is pretty much locked up and at Buddy Bakers mercy because of this SNAFU.
Just give him the damn MLE already. This standoff needs to end so we can move forward with filling out our roster and finish tweaking. If we lose him for NOTHING we're worse than we were last year. That's a disgusting thought to entertain for somebody that is currently questioning whether this group WITH Landry was even good enough in the first place.
True. I'm having a rough off-season. I think the Cluth Crew is going to bust must me down to rookie status any minute.
I understand that everybody would like to get something for nothing. However, I think there are just too many questions left unanswered regarding Landry's health and consistency of play. If he wants to go elsewhere, whether in Europe or another NBA team, I think the Rockets should let him go. At some point I'd like to see the Rockets gain the fortitude to put the Bryce Drew-Mo Taylor era of bad business and rediculous contracts behind them.
You guys know that the contracts aren't guaranteed in Europe, right? Landry goes down with an injury, he could be dropped in a heartbeat. I imagine European teams would be willing to offer him more money for that very reason - because they know they won't be on the hook for an injured Landry. At least Houston would have to honor a contract if he gets injured. No one doubts that Landry can play, but I wouldn't want to ink a guaranteed contract with a guy unless I know physically he is capable of playing for most of that time. Landry's agent if he is smart (which it appears he isn't), should use this as a bluff but realistically he is doing his client (with his injury history) no favors by sending him to Europe.
