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Beijing Authorities to Ban Blacks and Mongolians from Bars During Olympics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. tinman

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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    He can say whatever he wants but that doesn't mean he has helped dispell the idea that Chinese are racists.
     
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    I said yes and No to this Rodney King thing.

    And here I agree with you(surprise!)

    You know why?

    many ordinary people in China just to not pay that much sympathy to someone like Rodney King. That guy was mistreated. But people tend to pay less sympathy to someone who cause the trouble and act poorly.

    Some people want to make a big deal out of it. I think they can wait for a better case like innocent people are beat up like that.

    Yeah,yeah, it is all about law, about right and wrong, about principle. Sorry, I don't buy it. I like in a real world.
     
  4. SevereCr1tic

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    Did the Chinese Government send the PLA to crack down on the drug dealings? I thought it was their local police too. :confused:
     
  5. davidwu

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    While 1.4 billion Chinese all liver under one umbrella?

     
  6. real_egal

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    so, you did get my point, and decided to resort to the game of word?

    Was there cry about racist LA LOCAL Government Policy? Was there cry about how STATE government directed government policy to start with LA local? Was there cry about FEDERAL government policy directing STATE and LOCAL police to go out to get blacks?

    Then how a local police action cracking down DRUGS DEALERS convinced you that Chinese GOVERNMENT (which would be CENTRAL government) declared some racist policy to get blacks?

    Please enlighten me, dude.

    BTW, the example I gave you, the immigration officer who beat up a female Chinese tourist was a FEDERAL AGENT.
     
  7. davidwu

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    You guys have no clue about what the Chinese society is like, at least to some aspects.

    Did you guys have any idea about what happened in Wengan, Guizhou just recently? I'd agree the news would not be as free here, but the riot, the outrage, it's all the same. I guess in your mind, all Chinese are helpless sheep under CCP clamps.

     
  8. tinman

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    uh, that article was about the BEIJING Olympics (national).
    oh there's been many outcries of injustice against Blacks in America, I guess you missed the whole Civil War thing and the Sixties.

    my question is why you guys are so defensive on everything? this really true, Ted Koppel did a report on DSHD about China and it seems every single person didn't want to talk politics or say anything bad about the government.

    its like Pryuen and Yao, he can NEVER admit Yao has a bad game.

    I love Dream and Maxwell, they've had terrible games, and these guys brought championships to the city.

    Have black people been mistreated across the world? yes. so is it hard to believe that it would happen in china? no.
     
  9. real_egal

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    Sishir, do you honestly believe one poster will change someone's perception of a whole ethnic group?

    There are 1.4 billion Chinese in China, and many millions overseas of Chinese background. There are always some racists among them and us. If you want to set the bar that high, Chinese will be racists in some eyes forever. That is fine, because I don't expect rational from someone trying so hard to label a whole race with any single bad action from a single person.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I'll take Chinese Hardcore over crap like that anyday

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  11. tinman

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    you mean this ?
    you know my point on rodney king is the videotape would never be shown

    if there is evidence here like a video, would they show it on TV?

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-webchina1-2008jul01,0,5822535.story

    In southern China, authorities arrest rioters
    Residents of the town of Wengan are angry at what they believe to be a police cover-up in the death of a teenage girl.
    From the Associated Press
    July 1, 2008

    WENGAN, CHINA -- Paramilitary police swarmed the streets of this southern town Monday and detained hundreds of people suspected of torching police and government buildings in anger over the suspected police cover-up in a teenage girl's death.

    Official vehicles roved the town blaring recorded appeals for rioters to turn themselves in. Television stations also broadcast warnings to surrender, residents said.

    The unrest stemmed from the death of a high school student, who Internet chat sites said was raped and murdered. Her body was pulled from a river June 22, the official New China News Agency said.

    Investigators questioned three young men -- two of whom may be related to local police officials -- but let them go, the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy said.

    As many as 30,000 people rioted Saturday because they were angry about a police report that said the girl drowned, the news agency reported.

    A preliminary investigation found no links between children of local officials and the girl's death, the news agency quoted vice county chief Xiao Song as saying.

    Liu Zhongmin, a teacher at the No. 3 Middle School in Wengan County, where the girl studied, said further investigations by higher-level medical experts and authorities were not complete. But residents feared they would also attribute the death to drowning, he said.

    "The girl's teacher is now explaining the whole situation to her fellow students, trying to keep them calm," Liu said.

    The New China News Agency said the provincial government had set up a team involving 10 criminal investigators and forensic experts to reinvestigate the death.
     
  12. davidwu

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    First, everyone gets defensive, to different extents, when getting its own family, team, hometown, country, ... Chinese are not saints.

    And for this specific thread, I see that most of the Chinese posters are arguing for, is not that there is no racism in China, be it against Black or Indian, but to disagree that from that single news story to generalize that there is general policy to not admit any blacks to bars in SanLiTun.

     
  13. tinman

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    dude people have rights. if a guy who was a criminal gets robbed, doesn't make the act of robbing a good act regardless if the person was a criminal.

    a crime is a crime. that's why Bruce Wayne wouldn't join the League of Shadows.
     
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    It's not defensive, but rather setting the record straight.

    If it's local police officer, blame them and condemn them. Do NOT attack Chinese as a whole as racists, and do NOT accuse Chinese government as a whole as racists before you demonstrate some evidence other than ONE unnamed bar owner for such grand shocking news.

    Is it too much to ask?

    I encountered racists in many countries, and some of them are homeless people as well. I never shout to them that "All you Americans/Germans/French etc etc are racists against Chinese". If I did that, if you were nearby, will you be "defensive"?
     
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    I don't know about how the TV stations are run there. But I am sure it would be all over in youtube and everywhere in the internet.
     
  16. tinman

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    there's racism everywhere dude, that's why its believable.

    I remember in Houston where there was some Asian crime going on. Then when I was out with a mixed group to this one bar (this was along time ago) they wouldn't let the Asian group in cause they claimed this one person had a fake id. (She had glasses on her ID, and not in public).

    so when I hear a story about racism at a bar, its very believable.
    Did the door guy turn racist? no, he was probably doing his job and had orders from high up.
     
  17. davidwu

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    Self-Quote: "I'd agree the news would not be as free here, but the riot, the outrage, it's all the same."

    Now you backed out from two of your three claims, you agree?

     
  18. tinman

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    youtube didn't exist back in the day.
    but the basketball was much better! :D
     
  19. tinman

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    there's the most important factor in the rodney king case,
    he was BLACK.

    it might be somewhat similar (poor villagers vs government) but not the same.
     
  20. SevereCr1tic

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    What? you are not making sense now. Who was talking about things that happened back in the day?
     

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