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Minn/ISO stats for those who care

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Mar 12, 2000.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    8 for 10

    The ISO run by Mobley was highly effective last night. This time I wrote down the 10 plays immediately after leaving the Summit, while they were still fresh in my mind.

    break down:

    Mobley comes in in the 3rd q., they immediately go twice to the ISO.

    1. Drive, beautiful finish reverse side with the left hand (point blank) good
    2. Defender backs off, 21 footer, good

    Minnesota immediately rethinks their defensive philosophy and double Mobley beyond the arc with Garnett.

    3. Swing pass, another, Francis for 3...good
    4. Swing pass, another, Francis open, tests his dribble (essentially resetting the play), then steps back, shoots...miss
    5. Garnett doubling again, Thomas cuts, Mobley fires a bean right over the double to Thomas in low post, turns for a lay-up, point blank miss, rebound, foul
    6. Same as #5, Thomas immediately shoots and converts...good, recorded assist
    7. Mobley tests the double with his dribble, jumps for a skip pass to Moochie on opposite wing, slips out of Moochie's hands, turnover
    8. Minnesota coach calls off the double team but had to yell to remind a player...Illegal D technical foul on the player being yelled at
    9. Mobley moves to left side, drives immediately for a lay-up, miss, Mobley put-back...good
    10. Right side...drive into middle of the lane, find Rogers baseline somehow, Rogers quick pass back to Mobley...10 footer,,,good.

    that's 8-10 on plays started by Mobley ISO on the wing.

    There was a failed play with Mobley at the top of the key with wing players on either side, but that's different play.
     
  2. CriscoKidd

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    If the iso is so good, why dont you marry it?

    Or Cuttino?

    Or Rudy?

    Case in point!!!!!

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  3. heypartner

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    I never thought it was this good.
    I started tracking it because I thought Rudy should scrap it back in late December.

    I still would like to see us deemphasize it sometimes. But, I can't argue with these numbers.
     
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    heypard

    -is Mobley the oly one who does the iso play?

    -how repetitive is it? I mean, whenever the Rocks set up and Mobley is in, is it iso after iso, do they get predictable with it?

    -can Mobley come up with cool iso quotes after the game, such as, " Im like an isoceles triangle, no one can figure out the isoceles triangle."

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  5. heypartner

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    the question i have is that Mobley was once quoted saying he likes having the "Two Shakes or ISO" called for him or Anderson. We never could figure out if Two Shakes and ISO are one and the same play.

    Two Shakes I always assumed stood for a pick play to shake loose the 2. There is a play that gets Anderson coming along the baseline. But I never see Mobley the recipient of any plays. He either runs the ISO or plays the weakside arc for the swing 3 ptr.

    Is it just me, or is anyone else disappointed in the fact we are still shooting the 3rd most 3 pointers in the league this year. I wanted that number to drop. I hate the fact Rudy's offense still can be forced to shoot 3s.
     
  6. Will

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    HP -- Now that you've established yourself as the site's research whiz, here's how to answer your complaint about our 3's. As we all know, shooting 3's makes sense when you're open, to punish the defense for collapsing toward the lane. It makes no sense when the defender is still on you and you're just jacking one up out of desperation.

    So the correct experiment is to count how many of our 3's are open and how many are forced with a hand in our face.

    My bet is that our ratio of open 3's to desperation 3's was excellent in '94 and '95 and is bloody awful today.
     
  7. Mango

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    Will,

    It seems that there isn't anybody comfortable(able?) to shoot a jumper at 16'.
    Either three pointers or 10' and in.

    Mango
     
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    I can shoot a 16 foot jumper very well. But only 19 feet is my range right now. [​IMG]
     
  9. Will

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    Mango,

    Do our guys shoot 16-footers at a percentage at least 50 percent better than their 3-point shooting percentage?

    Does the average NBA player shoot 16-footers at a percentage at least 50 percent better than his 3-point shooting percentage?

    If not, I share our preference for 3-pointers. But I agree with you that we need proficiency at 16-footers to keep the defense guessing.
     
  10. heypartner

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    There was a huge reason to spread around the arc in 93, 94...actually 4 reasons,,,

    Hakeem
    Max, Smith, Horry

    We have no Hakeem
    and we don't have 3 starters who can shoot 3s like Max, Smith and Horry.

    Don't force our bunch to be prolific 3 pt shooters, if they are better at other things. Shooting 3s is not a great option for us, IMO. Especially, when we have time now to develop plays to exploit the dribbling of Francis, Mobley, Anderson and Thomas. We are a far superior dribbling team to the 93-95 teams...use it!

    Dribble penetration to throw back over your shoulder to the arc is fine, but that should be your last option. Developing plays that focus on dribble penetration should strive for something better than a 3...if you don't the defense can easily force you to settle for 3s.

    Allowing defenses to force you to settle for 3s, reminds me of the Steelers against that Run-n-Shoot that forced the Oilers to settle for 5 yard slants so the safety could knock Givens' head off.
     

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