I'm a lifelong conservative activist and I'm backing Barack Obama

im hearing this over and over again from people who have traditionally voted republican and labelled themselves conservative.

 

This article makes absolutely no sense. He criticizes McCain for "irreperable damage to our Constitution". Last I checked, Obama just voted in favor of the FISA bill.

He also openly admits that he knows Obama is likely an ultraleft lib when it comes to the economy, but he'll vote for him anyway. I don't know any true fiscal conservative who can justify that.

It sounds like his only reason for supporting Obama is because he'll get us out of Iraq. If that's the case, then just say that. And BTW, Obama is waffling on that issue as well lately.

 

I mentioned this months ago, myself. I've heard that from several Republicans, a lot of them former Democrats, who switched in 1980 because of Reagan. Many seem eager to switch back. Bush and the former GOP Congress really ticked off a lot of people.



Impeach Bush/Nixon... I mean Cheney.

 

He did say that. That's exactly what he said. He said he doesn't think Obama will ultimately enact the liberal domestic policy ideas....but that even if he does, he still thinks it's more important to get out of Iraq and avoid war with Iran.

 

No argument. As has been amply demonstrated on this forum and in the news, many of his supporters are absolutely pissed about it. I'm not planning on voting for him at the moment thanks to that act of unfathomable travesty.

Please tell me this is tongue in cheek...

Reagan/Bush I/Bush II - not exactly the bastion of fiscal restraint...

I'm for anybody who will stop wasting my tax dollars on foreign ingrates intent on blowing each other (and our troops) up.

 

Just because a guy calls himself a conservative doesn't make him one. He may have held different views 20 and 30 years ago, but this thing he wrote here now shows him to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal.

So, meh, whatever. The guy has one vote, just like everyone else.

Anyone going to bother reposting David Mamet's counterpoint?

It's typical election-year pap - 'I have been dedicated to the *other side* all my life, and now I am changing sides, because (insert candidate name here) is really honestly truly the better guy.'

Whatever.. it's straight out of the kindergarten version of 'political campaigns for dummies', but the gullible always eat it up.

 

I'm very curious to see which parties defections will be greater.

All we heard about during the primary fallout was about Democrats who were so butt-hurt they'd never vote for Obama... but the Republican party apparently has a huge rift of underwhelmed conservatives that won't be pulling any levers for McCain come November.

 

This must have been deleted or edited out because I was like WTF?

 

Whatever, guy. I have a functional memory, unlike so many people these days.

Just because you say something with a sneer doesn't make it true.

November 2 is less than four months away now, so we'll see how classic it is, won't we?

Of course, I remember having this same exact conversation with lots of different people in 2004 too.. hmmm..

 

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

 

Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating...Bush's approval rating is at 28%.


Huh?

 

I applaud your ability to recognize this about the way you present your views on this board.

Kudos for the self introspection.

 

Ah, got your 'Cleverness' badge from your box of cereal this morning, did you?

Good job, way to use the exact same clever internet wordplay that 90 million other clever people have done.

Anyway.. "..the way you present your views on this board. " I know, the *audacity* of a conservative to venture into liberal-infested waters and speak with the same level of assuredness and self-confidence that the libs do. The horror. It oughtta be illegal.

 

Facts aren't relevant - he has a functional memory.

 

or from another thread

 

A true conservative could never support Obama...unless he has been bought and paid for (and is thus no conservative at all, but a political w****), or unless he has drunk the kool-aid and morphed into a marxist useful idiot.
Any true consevative is having to hold back bile to vote for McCain in many ways, but may be able to do so to avoid the arsenic and cyanide that Obama represents.
Obama's views on taxes, abortion, immigration, the 2nd amendment, marriage, moral values, the military, the war againsty islamic jihad, the economy, the environment, energy (drilling for oil and nuclear power) etc., etc. are all the anti-thesis of conservatism and will serve to destroy this nation's way of life, it's propseriy, and its liberty.

In many areas McCain is just as bad...but on marriage, the 2nd amendment, taxes, energy, abortion (and the USSC as regards it), and the war on Islamic Jihad his views represent differences enough for me to abjectly oppose Obama and his poison.


BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - CHANGE

 

I certainly understand Republican defectors this year. They really aren't offering conservatives much. But the logic behind this article is ridiculous.

Obama has been consistent with his economic rhetoric. He has been consistent in saying that he believes that we can tax, spend, and regulate our way to a better economy. On the other hand, he has been terribly inconsistent about foreign policy.

Example Iraq:

2003 - Against the war.
2004 - Against going in, but would stay in at this point.
2006 - Bring all the troops home now.
2007 - Bring most of the troops home between now and 2010, but leave 30,000 for support.
July 2008 - I reserve the right to change my mind about Iraq.

He's also been inconsistent about Constitutionally-protected civil liberties from gun-owner's rights to due process, as has been thoroughly vetted on this board.

So the author chooses to not take Obama at his word on issues where he's been consistent, and chooses to take Obama at his word on issues where he's been inconsistent. It's a horrible example of cognitive dissonance, but to be fair to the author, he's not alone. I've seen a lot of this when talking to voters.

 

If Obama proves a moderate, that is fine...(again I'm one of the few weirdos who thinks there are good Presidents on both sides)...but I can understand that is very difficult to appear moderate from the beginning,...because you need the rabid Huffington/ Code Pink voices early on as a strategy...If I was a liberal (with intentions to reach out in moderation) running,...I'd do the same thing...