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Arthur v. Greene

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 12, 2008.

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  1. jopatmc

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    didn't see the game, but looking at the stat sheet, he got 12 free throws. That was probably fouls on his drives to the rim, at least some of them.


    40 in summer league should translate to about 10 during the regular season, shouldn't it?
     
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    There are different levels of summer league. The Southern California Pro League had levels. Both levels play on the same day, but the pro level doesn't play against the rec level. Some players like Bo Outlaw enjoy dominating on the recreational level of the summer league games with teams like Play 2 Win, The Panthers, and Ticket.

    Then, there are the regular summer league games affiliated with NBA teams. These teams are identified by their familiar names Houston Rockets, Memphis Grizzlies, and Los Angeles Lakers.
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    so what is it? :confused:

    The title is "Arthur v. Greene"

    and the OP says

    its either I don't know how to read or you can't write
     
  4. binvegas

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    Title should read would Greene be better than Jordan lol. Anyway where is all these Syracuse alumni who was knocking Greene when all the real basketball people knew he was off the hook.
     
  5. Old Man Rock

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    Most of his foul shots were from out side jumpers. He is not going to beat his man off the dribble right now. At least from what I saw he doesn't have enough handles to blow by most NBA small forwards. But he does have enough of a first step to create space and then pull up. He is quick enough and has a sweet stroke. That's what looks hopeful is he is the another who can create for himself and has a better stroke than TMac. He also is not a ballhog as some might suggest. All of his shots came in the flow of the game. His only problem is he needs to get a feel for when he is just to covered to shoot. But to his credit he is already adjusting. In the first half any space was an open shot for him. In the second he looked for the open man more.
     
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    Because Regular Season NBA is precisely 4 times the degree of difficulty of Summer League? :confused: I'd like to see your math on that one.
     
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    40/4=10 :D
     
  8. abigwreck

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    ^ Math don't lie :p
     
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    By that logic, so Donte Greene will be rookie scorer of the year? Nice!

    Yep, Math don't lie.
     
  10. vlaurelio

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    do you divide by 4 or deduct 30? ;)
     
  11. emjohn

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    I was furious on draft night, and remain extremely unhappy we let Arthur go twice (once for Batum, then for Greene).

    If the idea is we need to have pieces to win inside the McGrady-Yao window, WTH are we doing passing on a guy ready to play (well) out of the box for a guy who *might* be a better player "someday down the road"?

    Arthur would be able to help the swingman rotation as a converted 3, especially if McGrady misses extended time like he normally does.

    We passed up a guy ready to play for a hope down the road. I certainly hope Greene shuts me up, because I'm not impressed in the least with what I've seen so far. Gerald Green came out with almost the exact same billing.

    As far as his big summer league game, that's great but it's still summer league. Aaron Brooks was astounding last summer, and how prophetic was it of his regular season? Greene may be awesome or a bust. I'm waiting until November before trying to decide.

    Evan
     
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    Why trade Brooks? Dont make sence.

    Didnt we trade these guys away?

    Richard Jefferson
    Reshard Lewis
    Rudy Gay

    Why?

    Brandon went at number 11 when Sacramento was going to shock the world and take him at 10, trust me there is a reason why they want him so bad.[/QUOTE]

    technically those players were never official rockets, and we passed on Rashard Lewis. Brooks is a player that will never ever be a superstar in this league! He is definitely tradeable!!!
     
  13. Alvin Choo

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    whos that european dude that plays for GS. He score above 30 in all the summer games last season, and he did not get much PT.

    That pretty sums up the quality of summer league.
     
  14. Classic

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    Wow, you're giving a 19 year old rookie summer league and training camp to decide if he's a bust? :rolleyes:
     
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    wasnt it?
     
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    I don't think you can totally write off the Summer League.

    Last years top scorers included Louis Williams, Kevin Durant, Belinelli (who could still turn out to be a durn good player), ABrooks, Azubuike, Lamarcus Aldridge, Francisco Garcia, Nate Robinson, Rodney Stuckey, Randy Foye, Rudy Gay, and Al Thornton.

    2006 scoring leaders included Randy Foye, Kevin Martin, Amare Stoudemire, Ryan Gomes, Brandon Roy, and Azubuike.

    If............Greene puts up multiple high-scoring games in Vegas, it is an indicator that he probably can at least score decently in the NBA. He may be a defensive sieve and may be a lame brain but if he puts up multiple high-scoring games, he can probably score well on the NBA level.

    I think his height combined with his stroke is going to give teams problems. To stop him, they've got to get up into him because he can shoot it over most everybody like McGrady does. Then when they crowd him with a tall defender, he can put it on the floor a couple times and get to the rim. I'd like at least see him on the floor with McGrady. McGrady makes a move to the bucket, does the defender come off Donte or do they let McGrady go one on one? It looks like Greene is more offensively developed than most of us first thought.
     
  17. Precision340

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    LMAO.. nice one!! :D
     
  18. fuzzy88

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    Right on!
    That's why many people (and Donte himself) consider him as more similar to Rashard Lewis, who signed a max contract last year with Orlando. Donte is even taller than Lewis, so he can pretty much shoot over any SF.

    What Donte should develop will be two things:
    - Back to the basket skills. With his size, he can back down most SF, and once he gets closer than 10 feet, he will be deadly.
    - Defense (obviously)

    I don't think it makes sense for him to drive to the basket and beat people off the dribble - he is too long to have great ball handling skill (note that in the history of ball handling, only Magic Johnson, 6'9", had ever been a great ball handler). The point is given Adelman's offense, he doesn't have to dribble and beat his opponent. The ball is supposed to be passed around - he just needs to create opportunities BEFORE the ball gets to him.
     
  19. Carr Bombed

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    Please get over yourself :rolleyes: There's a reason why Arthur fell, he doesn't have the bulk/toughness to play inside, not the range to move over to the 3 spot.......he's a tweener without the skill to be a tweener. LMFAO at these fools drooling over Arthur.
     
  20. nahmorlah

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    Lebron? T-Mac? Pippen (as much as everyone hates him) had good ball-handling skills. Though I do agree with most of what you said.
     

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