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Minor trade in the works, Woods requests and is granted release from his contract

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hooroo, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

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    I like him too, but if Morey needs to clear some roster space, then I am fine with him getting something for Novak, but I am NOT sure that the article is accurate, it sounds like a guess.

    We certainly have not heard anything about Head, have we?

    DD
     
  2. aussie rocket

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    3 years so far - 0 improvement.

    Should we really wait any longer?

    and doesnt the fact that he's not even getting burn in the SL to work on his game tell you something?
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Ok, I have to correct this...

    He has played TWO seasons, and he showed significant improvement across the board in season two.

    That being said, whatever Morey wants to do with him, Head, Francis, Hayes....none of them are all that relevant to the team anymore.

    DD
     
  4. aussie rocket

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    ok my bad on the years - but I was referring to his D - has his
    D really improved?

    I wouldnt of thought so.
     
  5. stipendlax

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    I haven't heard anything new about Luther.

    I'm fine with clearing up some roster spaces, as long as they benefit the team. Keeping Luther, for instance, instead of Novak does not make this team better.

    Same with keeping players like Harris or Hayes. You have to weigh your options. Would you rather have Hayes guarding Boozer as time dwindles, or Novak take a game winning shot?

    Besides, we have too many undersized PF. If anything, we need more offense. Hustling only gets you so far. At some point, the ball needs to go in the basket.

    Hayes, Harris, Head... they don't do that.
     
  6. hooroo

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    A TE + pick would be just a like for a pick only though. The TE doesn't carry over so the Rockets just get a salary dump out of it.

    If they're ironing out on a deal now it'd have to be for a max of two years if they're using the minimum exception leaving the MLE untouched to match any potential offers to Landry.

    They probably wouldn't be worried about insurance if the contract was fully guaranteed. So my guess is it's about the amount of money that's guaranteed in the first year/training camp.
     
  7. Angkor Wat

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    I see a 2 for 1 deal coming up. Hopefully for a true 3 that can slash and finish.
     
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    Time to get rid of Novak. Trade him for a Baby Ruth, heck even a lolipop. Tired of his weakass and incessant excuses from the likes of DD, no offense.
     
  9. durvasa

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    I'm not following. We wouldn't be able to use the TE this season?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Yes, it has gone from putrid, to stinky.......but then I don't recall Reggie Miller playing any defense.

    I always wonder why some players get blasted for their bad defense while others like Brent Barry for example get a pass.

    DD
     
  11. aussie rocket

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    At first thought I would say because Barry is a smart player who can bring more than just shooting (or at least he could earlier in his career, when he was a helluva athlete)

    And I dont need to point it out to you, but Novak ain't Reggie.
     
  12. hooroo

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    Yes.

    Eg:

    Rockets trade Head for Bull's TE.

    Rockets get nothing in return, Bull's get Head.
     
  13. Laozi

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    right, not only can Novak not play defense, but he can not dribble, pass, rebound, etc.
     
  14. durvasa

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    There's a huge difference. Brent Barry was a significant rotation player on two defensive-oriented, championship teams. Reggie Miller played huge minutes on some very strong defensive teams in Indiana. There's no way that a coach like Gregg Popovich or Larry Brown would have tolerated Novak's defense for extended minutes in an important game.

    Miller and Barry understood how to at least play solid team defense. Novak simply looks lost on that end.
     
  15. durvasa

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    Oh ... duh. I get it. I should go to sleep. :D

    Now I'm curious how a team acquires a TE in the first place.
     
  16. stipendlax

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    Time to get rid of Novak's hefty contract!
     
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    Hmmm..., seems to me that some of these same thoughts were said about Boki when he was run out of town. In spite of his bad back, he seems to have turned out okay. Sometimes it takes a little longer for the light to come on for some players.

    I like Novak, but wouldn't mind trading him for an upgrade in talent now, as opposed to waiting for him to develop 2-3 years down the road.
     
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    If Novak and Head are being traded... I wouldn't hold my breath for someone who could contribute much in return. IMO Novak and Head don't have much of a trading value, and Head makes it a negative.

    Maybe if we include Hayes in the trade, that might mean something. Well lets just hope the other GM don't know jack squat about them aside from youtube highlights.
     
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    that's all she wrote for Novak. Even he see's the handwriting on the wall by not playing in summer league. He really is irrelevant with Barry and Donte Green around. Green showed more in one game than Novak did in two years. Now what can the Rockets get back for a slow unathletic player who is an overrated shooter.
     
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    I am sorry to see Woods go. Woods is the Tim Duncan of Europe. :D At least some Euro teams want Woods. Woods is also cheap like dirt when you consider Diop's 30 millions contract.

    Anyway, I think the minor trade that Morey talks about is to dump some salaries to go under luxury tax. The Rockets salaries without Deke and Landry are ~ 70.5 millions. Let's say the salaries of Deke and Landry combined to be 3.5 millions, the Rockets will have a total salaries of 74 millions, which is ~2.9 millions over the luxury tax threshold.

    My bet is Morey will probably dump Novak and Luther Head for trade exceptions. But I do hope the Rockets will keep Novak though. I still love Novak's sweet 3 pt shootings.
     

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