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Being an employee in the corporate world - Is it for everyone?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Ehsan, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. thegary

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    actually lot's of differing opinions on "happiness". all legit <-(except apollo's defeatist post). but yeah, you gotta serve somebody. if you are under 30 and have no dependents, put it off as long as possible. :)
     
  2. cagey veteran

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    Just try to make as much money as possible. You're going to need it in the future when gas costs $20 a gallon.
     
  3. Gutter Snipe

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    Here's the thing - 90% of high-level success is luck or birth. You are in a great situation right now, and if you put in 10 years, you could probably do what you want to later, with a bank account to fall back on.

    Unless you are 95% sure that you could go back and get in a similar situation, I'd advise you to stick it out.

    A lot of people don't want to do the jobs that they are doing, and they have far less opportunity than you do. Frankly, you don't understand how bad a job can be and how blessed/lucky you are right now. Have you ever worked for minimum wage? Gone hungry because you could only afford ramen noodles (again)?

    I've been without money before, and it sucks dude. It sucks not even being able to afford to buy chicken.

    It also makes me appreciate my current job.

    Oh yeah, and remember - the gravy train days of oil won't last forever. Get you some while you can.
     
  4. mrpaige

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    I have had similar problems working at some companies. There wasn't enough work to fill the hours they expected me to work, so I spent more time trying to look busy than actually doing my work.

    One job I had, the boss kept wanting us to come in earlier and earlier in order to get a jump on the day. Our morning meeting started at 9am when I began work there, by the time I left, the morning meeting had been moved up and up and up until we had to be there at 6am for the meeting while still finishing the day at 5pm (no overtime, either). It was hell coming up with stuff to do just to fill the day. In many ways, that was the worst job I ever had.

    The best corporate-type job I had was much more flexible, mostly because it was at a daily newspaper and it was something of an odd shift (3pm to Midnight or whenever the work for the day was done if we finished earlier). The corporate bosses worked a regular 9-5 shift, so when they left, we felt like we were allowed to have some fun while still getting our work done.

    I enjoy that now people I work for only want to see me is when I pitch myself for the job/get the job, when they give me the requirements for the job, and when I turn the damn thing in (and sometimes not even then). Everything in between is all me.
     
  5. orbb

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    Got kids yet? I see a lot of I's. 8-5 doenst look like a horrible schedule to me, but I suppose things are different in Dubai
     
  6. Ehsan

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    Gonna try to address everyone with this post:

    I definately need to find my own happiness. I just don't want to overlook anything, which is why I'm discussing this with everyone.

    I don't worry about oil. I live in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates remember :D . Sorry, that's one thing I can smile about.

    There's no minimum wage here, but if there was, I've done it. I've driven a car which I had to fill up with water after every trip. I've slept in my car a few times. Been there. Obviously, don't like it. But it's different because I have a university degree and I'm a UAE national now, so it's unlikely that even if I go on a 1 year holiday I'll drop off the market. Again, I'm not being a douche, and I hate myself when I sound like I'm gloating but I'm honestly not. I'm just explaining that this isn't about FAILURE in this industry. It's about whether success in this industry holds much value to me as a person.

    No kids, but have an eye on getting married soon. This is probably the #1 reason why I haven't switched jobs yet. But it's artificial. I figured since her parents will analyze me on silly things like where I work and what my family name is, that I would keep a job which I would quit soon after. She is already aware of my situation and is there to support me.

    8 to 5 with a 1hr lunch is minimum. I rarely leave at 5 and rarely take an actual lunch break.

    Can anyone else here justify that I'll spend (including transportation and overtime) around of 18-20 hours a day sleeping or working? I know that's pretty normal in the business world, but think about it a little bit... As a human, you will have (rough estimate) 24% of your life for yourself (and family, kids, etc). For as long as I remember, religion comes first and family comes next. But now, it seems like everyone is fine with work being first.

    Mr brightside,

    I have to be honest with you, with the kind of support we get, it's difficult to fail. The only way I can clarify it is this: Imagine Dick Cheney gave you an interest-free loan over 25 years and access to whatever advising you need plus fast-tracking any governmental/municipal approvals you need. Oh, also imagine that you are in Dubai, which is highly developed but still has more room for opportunity than, say, New York or Tokyo.
     
  7. Dubious

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    p*****s!

    Toyota Camry engineer died from 'overwork'


    * July 10, 2008 - 7:44AM

    A Japanese labour bureau has ruled that one of Toyota Motor Corp's top car engineers died from working too many hours, the latest decision against overwork in Japan, where stoic acceptance of extended overtime has long been the norm.

    "In the two months up to his death, he averaged more than 80 hours of overtime per month, the criteria for overwork," an officer at the Aichi Labour Bureau, who asked to remain anonymous because she is not an official spokeswoman, said today.

    The man who died was aged 45 and had been under severe pressure as the lead engineer in developing a hybrid version of Toyota's blockbuster Camry line, said Mikio Mizuno, the lawyer representing his wife. His identity is being withheld at the request of his family, who continue to live in Toyota City where the company is based.

    He regularly worked nights and weekends, was frequently sent abroad and was grappling with shipping a model for the influential North American International Auto Show in Detroit when he died of ischemic heart disease in January 2006.

    His daughter found his body at their home the day before he was to leave for the United States.

    The ruling was handed down June 30 and will allow his family to collect benefits from his work insurance, Mizuno said.

    In a statement, Toyota offered its condolences and said it would work to improve monitoring of the health of its workers.



    http://www.theage.com.au/world/toyota-camry-engineer-died-from-overwork-20080710-3cql.html
     
  8. Lady_Di

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    I worked for a corporate for a year before landing this job with an oil & gas company which I've been working for 2 years.

    Before this job, I worked for the Rockets and it had a small business feel for some reason.

    I can say that I like my job better than the gig at the Rockets, just because my job requires me to work with more than two people like I did at the Rockets.

    With a corporate, you work with lots of people. They don't micromanage me here at all...I don't even need to fill out a time sheet. I get paid when I'm sick or have to leave work for medical or personal reasons where I couldn't do that with the Rockets.

    I like people I work with here and the environment is always positive. I can work from home if needed. Sometimes, I get bored of 8-5pm work days but perks pretty much tops it.

    Right now, I'm really frustrated with my job because I'm tackling on something new and I've been feeling like this isn't for me but then that's my personal issue to deal with.

    Working for a corporate has its perks, depending on which company you're with.
     
  9. Mr. Brightside

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    If you work in corporate finance you have to be prepared to work with stiffs. Alot of these people are emotionless drones who just are there b/c they scored well on their GMAT.

    In high finance, like investment management and hedge funds (the field I am in) you see more creative types and diverse work environments. For example in my office, my superiors allow me to show up in jeans and work from home if I want to. This is because I really don't interact with clients.

    I am somewhat familiar with Dubai, since I have traveled there a few times over the years for work since UAE is a hedge fund capital of the Mid East.

    I have heard of interest free home loans from Emerati's up to 500K or so. I didn't know about business loans, but nothing really surprises me since you have a big advantage if you are a national. You should feel lucky. Most Emerati's have a leg up on life due to their country birth right.
     

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