Pistons Possibly Trying To Land T-MAC for Billups and T-Prince

1) That's why I'd like to see Hamilton in Houston. The consensus among a lot of other people on this board is that he's a natural fit for Adelman's system.

2) The West is stacked with PG's, but Billups is genuinely good enough to hang with the elite in the West. Blinebury at the Chron mentioned his name earlier this year as a dream pick up for the Rockets. If the Rockets can get him they need to pull the trigger.

 

True, hamilton would be a better fit. The dude is a monster coming off curls and spot up shooting.

Thats why i've said countless times, billups/hamilton morey!!!!!

 

well since

The agent for Carmelo Anthony says the Denver Nuggets have told him they will not trade the two-time All-Star forward this summer.

Anthony
"He's not going to be moved," Calvin Andrews said in a telephone interview Sunday. "It's not happening. We've been given assurances from the owner on down."




We should have edge if Detriots still wants a scorer like TMAC



TMAC/Head for Billup/RIP




YAO
SCOLA/LANDRY
BATTIER
RIP
BILLUP

 

billups and hamilton is a easy deal for the rockets.
first off, them two combined definitely compensates for the void that will be left by Tmac's scoring/playmaking. Individually? no. but combined? yes.

and look at it from a different way: TMac makes almost as much as both players do together, making him an immovable player in terms of trade. What if Tmac goes down with an injury or we want to upgrade the team? We cant move his contract! By having Rip and Billups, we can trade either one for decent players. Right now, if we have the chance to get even 90 cents on the dollar via rip and chauncey, and also more liquidity in terms of tradable talent, so why not pull the trigger?

 

I don't know, I dont like this lineup for some reason.... IMO, we still get owned by Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and heck even probably owned by Jazz and the Suns. I would much rather make a play at an All Star calibre player by trading Battier + ? and keep TMac.

e.g.

YAO
SCOLA/LANDRY
Mike Miller
TMac
Alston/Francis

This lineup to me just seems better.

 

unlike pierce, when he did have bad shooting games (when he still put up over 20 pts), he rebounded AND assisted AND defended. that's what great players do. a stinker is when he has zero or little impact. trust me, tmac had his impact in the game.

like you said in game 2, tmac shoudl have stepped up in the 4th and he didn't. criticize away. i cannot defend that. but he also contributed 10 rebounds and 9 assists, along with 3 blocks and 2 steals. game 1 he put up 8 rebounds and 7 assists.

overall, he played better than i thought considering he was playing with 2 injuries and struggled scoring down the stretch of the reg. season. he def. was our best playoff performer and most consistent. without him, we wouldnt be close in any games, let alone winning 2 games. you had to know we trailed by double digits in both games 1 and 2 and tmac pulled us closer to start the 4th. that's where we needed that 2ND OPTION. that's where either yao or rafer came in. unfortunately, both were injured. no one player can dominate every quarter without some consistent help.

 

a dog game in terms of 4-6 pts with no impact. i don't think so.

a stinker to tmac in the playoffs is like 20-22 pts on 35% shooting with 8 rebounds and 7 assists. that's a stinker for tmac. tmac ALWAYS would pick up his rebounding and assists and defense (blocks, steals...).

a stinker i mentioned for pierce is 4-6 pts with 3 rebounds and 3-4 assists. that's what i call a stinker. do you expect tmac to have one of those games in the playoffs where you know tmac actually does stay focused throughout a game?

BIG DIFFERENCE.

 

um 90% of sportswriters predicted the lakers would win the finals. surprise surprise, oh no, games are played on the court. again you always believe sportswriters without forming your own opinion.

watch the games please. we were 2-1 with rafer alston and lost game 4 b/c we failed to make 1-2 plays in the 4th. and we BLEW OUT THE JAZZ in convincing fashion in game 5. and you saw what happened when rafer came out in the 2nd half of game 6.

if yao had played, he wouldn't play more than 25 minutes anyways considering adelman plays to matchups and boozer killed him last yr while this yr, boozer was shut down.

 

all those are valid points (though tmac went to the line an average of 9 times in the playoffs, one of the leaders in free throw attempts even if you only consider the first round). i agree tmac has to improve his fg% (though 43% isn't that bad considering he was playing on 2 injuries) and ft% (60% is pathetic any way you slice it)

i never argued with you on those points. but like i said, his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. and he still was the best player in that series. deron and boozer admitted that after game 6 when that ESPN lady interviewed them.

 

Wow! I thought I posted a lot, but you're above 27 a day. I simply can't type that fast.

 

um, the pistons offense sucked balls in the playoffs too. what's your point? our reg. season was good enough to be 2 games away from the #1 seed.

i only care about offense in the playoffs and billups hasn't exactly been one of the best PGs in the playoffs in the past few years. in fact, check his playoff stats the past few yrs, you wouldn't know if it was rafer or billups if you don't know the name.

 

guys, wekko just wants the trade so EVERYONE in this world knows it's yao's team.

and kenny, max, horry, ellie, cassell are ALL great 3pt shooters.

why do you want to exploit yao's double teams when he clearly struggles against it? all yao does when a double team comes is pass back to the passer who passed him the ball and the play is restarted.

 

adelman said games 5 and 6 in the playoffs were the perfect way our team should run the offense. he said going forward the team will run more in the high post through tmac and scola. coincidentally, those 2 games tmac had his best offensive output. so no, tmac fits his scheme perfectly.

 

i'm trying to educate these 2 guys on the game of basketball. one doesn't know the concept of boxing out; the other doesn't know that yao struggles with double teams and 2 coaches tried to make him the centerpiece and failed.

sometimes keep pounding concepts hopefully will get to them.

 

Well, except for my little comment, you've posted 8 times in a row in this thread. Believe it or not, you can quote several people in the same post. It kinda interrupts the "flow" and adds pages to a thread when you post the way you're doing. Not that I'm an expert or anything.

See what I mean?

 

DO IT MOREY... MAKE THIS HAPPEN! Although, maybe if we could sweeten the pot a bit more, we could have it to where we get Billups AND Hamilton... doubtful tho.

 

Honestly I think if we shop around and pick up a star pg close to billups we'd be a better tandom that Billups PRince and Yao. We are really close to having a set team that can just win it all. Instead of trading Tmac who is better than Prince, why not try to get Billups or just a way better pg than Raefer. Raefer improved but he's just toooooooo streaky to be our starting pg. Let's limit his minutes and he could be the back up pg that we've been needing as well. I am not ready to see Mcgrady be kicked to the Curb. He still definitely has it in him. What he needs is a boost of confidence. A healthy season, back up, a healthy yao, and a star point guard to take a load off his shoulders.... he'll be taking us to the promise land like pierce did.

 

Just throw Yao in. Does that sweeten it enough for you? He only passes out of double teams to the passer and has failed at being the centerpiece of our offense. And we can win a series with having the bulk of the shots being taken by our low percentage starting guards.

 

You just answered your own question. If Yao receives the ball and gets double teamed, he should give the ball back the the passer.

If we have reliable 3 pt shooters, then the original passer will shoot. But since we dont, we're forced to restart the play.

 

wait so just to clarify...this thread is 32 pages of speculation? with no real news of a potential trade? can we merge this with the random summertime trade thread? i think this incorrectly gives the perception of being "news".