"Injury prone" is hindsight. Unless the player is involved in some chronic stuff, nobody can predict how much he is going to get injured. Are you sure Howard will not have more injuries than Yao in the future? How do you know? I don't think any GM would say, "Gee, look at that 18, 8 guy who have not missed a game in 3 years. Let's trade our 24, 10 guy to get him cause our guy has missed a third of the games in the past." That's not how you do the math.
I can guess, because the trend line is pointing one way. They might not say that, but there's a very good chance they'd be wrong.
i couldn't trade yao away, i don't know why (hakeem) but i love seeing the ball pounded into the post possession after possession.
Signed, Yao & Tracy, 2005-2008 What is the point of this thread really - come up with a bunch of incredibly unrealistic trades that overvalue Yao & Tracy that other teams would never do?
sorry to say but i dont think Yao is going anywhere. NBA, regardless, is still a BUSINESS! and if you only knew how much income Yao brings in (including all of china), u'd be stupid to trade him away.
Hey, I would trade Yao for right price, but not what you proposed here. Are you kidding? Bogut at this rate right now is on path to be a solid role player and Michael shoot too much Redd. If they are so great, how come they couldn't even make the playoff in the East for 3 years now. Yes, I have watched a lot of Bucks basketball, so I know what I am talking about.
There is no trend unless the kind of injury is recurring. You can say McGrady's back is that kind. But Yao's injuries were all different. Who would have guessed Wade, who looked physically tough, would get injured like that right after winning a title? Who would have guessed during Francis's first few years that he would miss so many games now? What about Ilgauskas, who was "injury prone" early in his career and turned out very healthy the past 6 seasons? So you are saying that there is a good chance trading an "injury prone" superstar for a healthy role player will be good? You are welcome to believe that.
If we are going to trade for Kobe or Lebron the story will probably be the same with them. We'll watch them get injured because of the minutes they are playing and because we aren't juicing them up with enough help. A Healthy McGrady and Yao both have it in them to take us to the title. The key word again is healthy. We get Kobe.. we'll start complaining how he misses so many games due to injury. If we get lebron although he is younger give it a year we'll be saying the same thing. I guarantee it. The only way I'd do that trade of mcgrady for lebron or yao for the dwight howard is if we were going to get them a good back up and help along with it in the trade or in a signing. If not our two stars have a sort of chemistry together that took some time to build. Get them some help. As for the other players. If we can trade a few of them for some serious super star talent to help yao and mcgrady out... I'm down. Pull that trigger.
We've got Osteomyelitis of the toe (a bone issue) in 2005, a broken left foot in 2006, a broken knee in 2007, and a broken left foot in 2008 - if you don't see a pattern here I don't know how to help you. I don't know who would have guessed that, nor do I really care much. Do you want to bet on who has more games left in their NBA career between Yao and HOward? I know which one I think does. You're welcome to believe that Howard is a role player. You're also welcome to believe that a "superstar" missing 20-30 games a year doesn't have a serious impact on a team's performance. Having a superstar that doesn't play is the same as having nothing on the nights when he doesn't play.
The only way that you would trade away.... is by Les giving you the GM position and OK'ing your deal.
I love Yao but thats boring as heck especially when the Lakers did that with Shaq in his prime and he demolished whoever guarded him. I hated that with a vengeance. I would only trade Yao or TMac for another team's franchise superstar player whoeever it maybe (except the franchise player from scrub teams like Bucks). Other than that, forget it, trade all other players we have for a very good third scorer/all star and we will be contenders barring any injuries. Anyways, I personally think that people here are way overestimating Yao's value. Dwight AND Rashard? You serious? Yao is very good, but he hasn't proven that he is a franchise player in either regular season or post season. As someone pointed out, you don't win MORE games when your franchise player is out! It should never happen. Dwight was a 20/20 beast in the playoffs, Yao was not even close at this age, heck even now. ONLY area that Yao is better than Dwight right now is offense, that will change as Dwight develops his post moves. Finally, forget all the stamina issues, freak injuries, Yao's latest stress fracture is serious. He is 7 6" and all these injuries will only shorten his career a lot faster than an average nba player. Sorry to burst everyon'es bubbles fans, just like TMac is not better than Lebron/Kobe, Yao is not better than Dwight.
I do feel that Kobe is better than T-Mac,Lebron isn't as a better shooter than Tracy but he is better overall IMO and can only improve.Howard was reduced to scoring 8 points in a vital game against the Pistons. His offense is weaker than Yao and even defensively Yao can do better than him right now,although I expect Howard to become a better defender than him in the future. Dwight's advantage is his health,world-class athleticism,rebounding. I respect your point of view and don't mean any offense.
Not long ago there was a thread about trading Yao and TMac for LeBron. Ofcourse that was daydreaming and salaries obviously dont fit. Look I think that Rockets are going to keep both of superstars for some more time until they fit in with another good additions. Rockets already have ones like Scola, Brooks, Francis etc. but they are not enough. No need to dream about trading TMAC or Yao, they are the cornerstones of this organization, rather quit spaming and talk about new things coming out like new draft etc.