I think he could take a contract starting a contract at $7 million. More isn't necessarily more $/yr but the security of a guaranteed multi-year contract. Anything can happen in a season like for e.g a career ending injury. 41M over 5 years (contract starting at 7M) > 8.4M over 1 year (if he hadn't opted out) .
I think Maggette opted out because he knew that the Clippers will not be a contender anytime in the next couple of years, so he must have thought instead of wasting my prime years putting up big meaningless stats he might as well convert his talent to wins. I think he really should consider the Rockets knowing for sure he'll get significant minutes with injuries and lack of talent at SF, but I have a feeling since the Lakers has a hole at SF he would be considering them as well. I would take Maggette for anything less than an average of 9 or 10 million per year. I believe might be worth a bit less to other teams, but to the Rockets, he'd be worth at least that much. Yes, we are that desperate to have his services because of what he can provide for the team. I like your suggestion but I think we have to offer more than other teams, because we really want him right? a line up of the following would be awesome Yao Scola Maggette McGrady Alston Battier - sixth man Douglas-Roberts - Swingman backup Mutombo - Backup Centre Brooks - PG Backup Landry - PF Backup The rest (Jackson, Head, Harris, Woods, Novak, Hayes) should be traded as Morey sees fit. To be honest Head is actually good in the regular season, Novak is a deadly shooter with size, Hayes is claimed by others as a bruising tough forward, and Jackson has a nice contract. This means we should be able to get some value in return.
I doubt it will happen-- and so I've resigned myself to disappointment and expectations of mediocrity-- but the Rockets should really traded either Mcgrady or Yao. Preferably Mcgrady. I understand that this duo has astronomical potential. I tend to feel that "potential" is all that it can ever be because of health reasons. Plus, their trade value will never be higher than it is right now. That being said, I think the Rockets should try to swing some VARIATION of the following (and I say "variation" for all of you salary cap nuts who will certainly post pretentious responses to this post): --> Mcgrady + Rafer to Detroit for Billups + Prince + 1st round pick --> Yao + Head + Hays to Phoenix for Amare + Barbosa/Bell/Diaw --> Mcgrady + Alston + Hays + 2nd round pick to Chicago for Heinric + Deng --> Mcgrady + Brooks to Washington for Arenas + Butler + 1st round pick and of coarse, there are other possibilities.
NO WAY we get arenas + Butler and a 1st for T-Mac and Brooks no possible way The rockets will never trade Yao so get that out of here and Phoenix would not trade Amare The first one is the only that there is a possibility of and maybe the third one I say we make a really hard push for Magette If we can get him i think that will get us out of the first round (of course with limited to no injuries to T-Mac and/or Yao
Baylor & Sterling like Maggette. If they keep him but look to jettison some contract/s... Alston + Jackson (+ Head) + 25th pick for Cuttino (+ Knight) + 7th pick? PG: Francis, Knight, Brooks, (7th/Westbrook) SG: McGrady, Cuttino SF: Battier, Harris, Novak PF: Scola, Landry, Woods C: Yao, Hayes, Deke or the Rockets ditch Head-Knight from the deal and play T-Mac at PG... PG: McGrady, Francis, Brooks SG: Cuttino, Head, (7th/Westbrook) SF: Battier, Harris(non-guaranteed), Novak(team option) PF: Scola, Landry, Woods(non-guaranteed) C: Yao, Hayes, Deke Clippers would look like this: Alston, Jackson, Knight/Head, Dickau(FA) Maggette(FA), Ross(FA), (25th pick) Thornton, Livingston(RFA) Brand, Thomas, Powell(non-guaranteed) Kaman, Davis(RFA), Fazekas(RFA)
Your first suggestion is the only "fair trade." But why would you want 2 defensive SF?? the 2nd and last is terrible and would never pan out. Your third one is a little disappointing as well. It could get done, but we'd honestly get the short end of the stick in this trade. Deng is a great player, but no where on Tmac's level. and I don't see Kirk as a significant upgrade over alston. All we serious need is another scorer at the 2 or 3 position, not a reconstruction in the roster.
Houston sends Head/Novak to Seattle. Seattle sends Johan Petro to Houston. Seattle is over loaded with centers & has no outside shooting beyond Watson to speak of. Houston needs a more reliable backup to Yao & possible starter if he goes down again. Petro solves that problem. Houston sends Brooks/#1 pick to Milwaukee. Milwaukee send Sessions/Storey to Houston. If we could follow that trade up with this one, we'd be set. Not that Milwaukee would even remotely consider trading Sessions. Sessions would give us a serious PG with great shooting skills. Milwaukee gets a nice young PG prospect & an extra draft pick to bundle with the #8 pick to possibly move up & snag the player they really want. Just a thought.
I also seem to like Petro..he can be that mobile backup C or PF who has the height, shooting ability and blocking capability..
I like the fourth suggestion, but don't think it's quite possible. Plus I don't think Billups + Prince > Mcgrady + Rafer. And even if so, who is our SG?
Here's a blockbuster trade for those that want to trade T-Mac. Houston sends T-Mac/Alston/Head to Chicago. Chicago sends Hinrich/Noah/Sefolosha/Hughes to Houston. I'm not real excited about getting Hughes in the deal, but he can be an effective guard for the last 2 years of his contract.
90% of the time i'm convinced we need to stick with the T-Mac/Yao core but this is an interesting suggestion. It nets us equal value in return for T-Mac and also addresses our big needs: 1) Starting PG upgrade 2) Backup 2/3 3) Backup center PG Hinrich/Brooks/Francis SG Hughes/Sefolosha/B-Jax SF Battier/25th pick/Novak PF Scola/Landry/Harris/Hayes C Yao/Deke?/Noah The only thing is the trade off between T-Mac and Hughes is pretty drastic. Hughes isn't a bad player but he's also not half of player T-Mac is. The good news is getting a solid perimeter defender like Sefolosha makes Battier somewhat expendable given the right package.
How about Keyon Dooling in a S&T? HTML: <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-magic12a08jun12,0,6469891.story">link</a>
I love these trades you're proposing! I had a deep look at the Sonic's roster and I have to agree with you that their bench is stuffed with big men who don't play much. They start Nick Collision at Centre and play Swift, Pietro and Sene each for around 10 mins. I'm sure they could spare one of them to get a shooter like Luther Head. They probably don't want Steve Novak to take up roster space next season when they have 5 draft picks this summer. Lol its interesting Luther was 24th pick of the 05 draft and Petro was the 25th pick. Petro would be awesome for us. Huge, and athletic. On the other trade...Ramon Sessions was my favourite player from all of last year's draft..I love his passing and I think he'd be awesome for his passing and decison-making, not for his shooting though. I'd love that trade to happen but don't see the Bucks doing it.
The ROX need to do everything to get Heinrich if Bulls release him. It will be a tremendous upgrade that they desperate need for years.
The Bulls will not "release" Hinrich. He earns about $10-11 mil per year for another three years or so. Trade? Perhaps. If the Bulls want to draft Rose, obviously they need to know they have some sort of trade available in which Hinrich goes out. Even though the Bulls supposedly think of Hinrich as more of a 2 than a 1, he makes too much money to be a backup 1/2 and is too short to be a starter at the 2.
Hinrich would be great. Get Hinrich Get Petro Draft Rush That'd be awesome if we can get those 3 done for next season. I'd accept Mo Williams too from the Bucks. It seems bucks wouldn't mind unloading him since they're rebuilding around Bogut with youth talent, and unloading Redd in the process too. What does everyone think of this trade? Rafer Alston Bobby Jackson Steve Novak 2nd Rounder Kirk Hinrich The Bulls get an established player behind their star Derrick Rose, and an expiring contract which they can use near the trade deadline. Steve Novak can provide a few minutes at SF with deadly 3 point shooting. Rafer Alston Bobby Jackson for Mo Williams Dan Gadzuric 2008 2nd round pick Upgrade at PG for us. This is a very good trade for the Bucks because they get to unload a really bad contract while getting solid players in return and an expiring contract. We get a bad contract but at least...and at last...we get an upgrade at PG. Not that good for us but its just an idea, and I might think twice about it before doing it. Just an idea...even though it may not be a very good one
Hi everyone, I'm a Rookie at this so don't be too hard on me, lol. I feel we don't have enough to offer to get a good deal done without losing key pieces, so there will have to be multiple teams involoved. I thought of 3 other teams that may be in the trading market (Denver, Detroit, New York). http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...teams=8~18~7~10~10~7~8~7~18~18~10~8&te=&cash= To do these trades I thought of every team involved reported intentions and how it could work for everyone. I know that there are many different ways to look at trades and if it was good for all teams involved but I thought of creating cap room and getting pieces they may need or want. I also took some simple numbers and added them up. I used a player's PPG and star quality (with .5 star being the lowest, and 2 stars being the highest). Take a look at the gains and loses, the numbers are crazy. Denver is looking for cap relief and players that hustle and play defense. They also have been looking for a legit PG ever since they traded Andre Miller. Get: Billups(17ppg, 1.5stars), Battier(9.3ppg, 1star), C. Hayes(3ppg, 1star) Detroit 2008 1st rd pick Lose: Anthony(25.7PPG, 2stars), Camby(9.1ppg, 1star) Gain: 29.3ppg & 3stars w/cap relief Lose: 36.8ppg & 3stars (Iverson and Smith will make up ppg difference) Detroit is looking to break up their core group but want star players in return. Reports say Anthony and Randolph is on their list. Get: Anthony(25.7PPG, 2stars), Randolph(17.6PPG, 1.5stars), Francis(5.5ppg, .5star- status could be higher if he can return to 80% of old self). Lose:Billups(17ppg, 1.5stars), Hamilton(17.3ppg, 1.5stars), Prince(13.2ppg, 1star) Gain: 48.8ppg & 4stars (Francis could be key) Lose: 47.5ppg & 4stars New York is looking to dump some salary to fix the mess Isiah Thomas made and also to make a run at Lebron James. D'Antoni has expressed he want guys who can run and shoot. Get: Camby(9.1ppg, 1star) B. Jackson(7.7ppg, .5star), Head(7.6ppg, .5star) Houston 2008 1st rd pick Lose: Randolph(17.6ppg, 1.5stars), Marty Collins(3.2ppg, .5star) Gain: 24.4ppg & 2stars (Two shooters extra draft picks and expiring contracts for Lebron, got rid of Randolph 13.3mil) Lose: 20.8ppg & 2stars As Rockets fans we all know what we need. A 3rd scorer, backup wing, PG and backup C. We can address two with this trade. Get: R. Hamilton(17.3ppg, 1.5stars), Prince(13.2ppg, 1star), M. Collins(3.2ppg .5star) Lose:Battier(9.3ppg, 1star), Francis(5.5ppg, .5star), Head(7.6ppg, .5star), Jackson(7.7ppg, .5star), Hayes(3ppg, .5star) Gain: 33.7ppg & 3stars Lose: 33.1ppg & 3stars After signing Landry, hopefully he won't take too much of the MLE, lets try to sign Juan Carlos Navarro if not then go for Chris Duhon. Then bring back Gerald Green. I feel he will get a whole lot better learning from and playing against T-Mac, Hamilton and Prince. Alston/Navarro or Duhon/Brooks Hamilton/Green/Collins T-Mac/Prince/Novak Scola/Landry/Harris Yao/Deke/Woods What do you guys think?
Looks like you put in a lot of time into that and at first glance it makes sense but....I don't think Detroit wants to trade Rip. Also, you are bringing prince off the bench?
Larsv8 Thanks. I did take a little time on it and I know that R. Wallace would have to be in the place of Hamilton, but I thought I would throw it out there. I really didn't know if I should have started Prince or Hamilton, so I went with Hamilton.
