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Supremes: Guantanamo Prisoners may Challenge Detention in U.S. Courts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. rimrocker

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    There was no core Constitutional question. That's the whole point. That's why the Court itself said the verdict only applied to this particular case. If it were at all a Constitutional question, they would not have limited it in such a way. It was a blatant gift to W. Here's Clinton in the Wiki article you apparently continue to refuse to read:
    Does anyone really doubt this? Do you think the same 5-4 vote would have applied had Bush been behind? Hell no. Bush v. Gore is the most obvious crassly political decision ever made.

    Furthermore, the FL law said voters "clear intent" was to be used when counting votes. The SC (Scalia and Rhenquist) in the stay essentially said you can't change or even define what that means because it's up to the FL legislature to make that determination. SO the FL SC hands were tied and when they started a recount based on the intent of the voter, the SC ruled that it was not right to count the votes without a clear standard. Thus, Scalia and the radicals crafted a box from which FL could not escape.

    And equal protection? Did the SC decision address the equal protection issue of those who voted for Gore but weren't counted? No.

    It is laughable that you think there was a serious Constitutional issue here. It was a means to get to the point where they could stop all recounts while Bush was still ahead, a remedy which obviously was not the only one available to the Court, as the dissents show. It was essentially a coup... it was outside the Constitutional prescription for dealing with a contested election.

    And no, I'll never get over it.
     
  2. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Neither will I. As you so eloquently pointed out, it is one of the most blatant power grabs in United States history. Based on nothing much, really, except for my "impression of basso," I honestly believe that were anyone else involved but Mister Bush, he would agree. Too bad.




    Impeach Bush.
     
  3. basso

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    and again, you'd be wrong.

    too bad.
     
  4. rimrocker

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    Saying something again and again does not make it true but it does make you look intentionally oblivious.

    You did not answer why the SC limited the ruling to Bush v. Gore. Again, if there had been a core Constitutional issue at stake, that would not have been the case.

    The court did not limit Miranda to Miranda. The court did not limit Brown V. Board of Education to Kansas City schools. The court did limit Bush v. Gore.
     

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