Yao Ming targeted? JVG might have been right in 2005

I don't have to look at the box score. I watched the game. When a game is that close, it only takes 2-3 calls to turn it...and the Mavs got several throughout the game that turned it into their favor.

 

1. As JVG said yesterday, the league should inform both teams about it before they want to change the call.
2. If the league wants to change the call, they should let refs pay attention to all players, not just one particular player.

I believe Josh Howard and some other mavs smoked weed before that game. They were so excited!

 

The Bigger the organization the more chances of it being corrupt.
The NBA as an organization has i don't know what like 30 teams or so?
And If each team is playing 82 games there has to be something going on. Maybe something not major but something.

All that being said, why would the NBA let the Spurs play in the finals 4 times in the past decade. Remember guys the Spurs and Lakers did play in the Conference finals in 04 I think it was and the Spurs went on to the finals.
Everyone knows the Nation does not like watching the Spurs play in the finals.
The Ratings speak for themselves.

In the past few years the Suns have not made it to the conference finals and everyone knows that the suns in the final would defenitely have brought the NBA more money than the Spurs.

I bet people would have much liked to have seen the Lakers play the Hornets in this past seasons playoffs but thats my opinion.

Some questionable things I might add would be the trade that brought Pau Gasol over to the Lakers.

So the real question is:

Has the Integrity of the NBA really fallen?

 

The spurs have small market in US, but they probably have the largest market in worldwide. You can check tv ratings across all the world.

 

NBA=WWE

After hearing this it made me sick to my stomach. Memories of Michael Finley being out of bounds and stealing the ball, Yao getting called for ticky tack fouls ruining our momentum... Aghhh How can we take the NBA seriously now? I stopped watching wrestling when I was 8 years old. Why? Because it took me that long to realize the WWF at the time.. Was fake. And now the NBA?? OMG say it isn't so...

 

We have to agree to disagree.

You said those were excuses. I said those are valid reasons.

You said he was not aggressive so he didn't get the calls. I said he had been aggressive so he got all the touchy foul calls which stopped him from being aggressive.

It's easy to guess which side Yao's fans and the haters will take.

As a Rockets fan who has played basketball beyond high school even until today in my late 20's, I have no doubt in my mind that I will not be convinced by your circular argument.

 

I think the problem for the Yao's officiating on moving screen was that the referees official web sit was actually showing videos of Yao as an example. Thus, it make the point of emphasis on officiating moving screen was totally directed to Yao. Hence, it's an unfair directive of the officials on Yao.

If the officials just made an effort to call moving screens on all the players, that's fine. If the officials only made an effort to call moving screens on Yao, that's unfair officiating. Big difference there.

 

how is it that people continually mistate what actually happened? JVG never said "referee", he said an "nba official".

 

and NBA officials tell hte refs what to do. same thing.

 

longhorn- its not about hating on any player. I'm just telling u that refs reward aggression. During that whole series, the TNT crew kept repeating Yao needs to go for the blk shot when the guard gets below the restricted circle. U say ur in ur late 20's so i'll give u 29 and u can't with a straight face say Yao gets punished as much as Shaq. The reason Shaq could play through that is his stamina,stregnth and will power to not be denied. When Yao plays like that, we never have a problem with officiating. The refs are forced to make a call one way or the other.

A poster earlier stated about 40 ft's while missing 11 not mentioning the critical misses by our 2 stars. The Rox could have won it if they did the most routine plays although the personel wasn't in their advantage. I remember the team up 2-0 going home but blew it. All they needed was 1 game and couldn't get it done. No conspiracies, just the inability to finish the game. Then after beating the mavs in game 6, no one bothered to get on the plane to show up for game 7. Just like this yr when landry couldn't get the ft rebound. Then after blowing the jazz out, tracy was the only guy to show up. I've been a rox fan since 80 and recently we have fell into a state of mediocrity and excuse making. Its a cycle that delusional fans and the organization need to break out of.

 

Weather we won or lost the series the refs were officiating against us. That's what this thread is about.

Stern and all the rest of the NBA organisation need to be put to trial. The league needs to be rebuilt, the core is obviously corrupt.

 

For those who don't remember the anger after game 5 of Houston/Dallas in the first round:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=95622

Part of the reason people were so angry was that games 3 and 4 had been officiated completely differently from games 1 and 2, and the tremendously awful officiating in game 5 just added insult to injury.

While I am still a Rockets fan, I have no doubt that games 3 and 4 were at least partially rigged by the league by changing the rules after the series had already begun. Game 5 was rigged indirectly, in that officials consciously chose not to foul out Dirk Nowitzki, in addition to making a inexcusable number of incorrect calls in the last 3 minutes of the game. At the very least, the league needed to acknowledge that the calls were wrong afterwards.

Sure, refs sometimes make bad calls. That is a part of the game. But the system is seriously lacking in transparency. Refs have an incredible latitude in deciding whether or not to call a foul in a given situation. How they make those decisions needs to be made known publicly, and that information needs to be provided to teams before the games are played.

Baseball did this a few years ago with their ball/strike evaluations. There is no reason the NBA shouldn't do it too.

 

Only at the end of the game. I'm arguing that the game was called fairly for both teams. The fact that Rockets got to the line more times than the Mavs in that "critical" loss is enough evidence to shut this thread down.

How can a team who is called for committing less fouls be sought out by the officials?

It just doesn't add up.

 

Sometimes one team really does foul the other team more than the other. If the goal were to just equalize the number of fouls then there would be no point to even having refs.

The goals of the refs should be to: 1) minimize simple errors, and 2) call fouls in a transparent and consistent manner.

In game 5 the refs failed very very very badly on count (1). They failed much worse on count (2) in games 3 and 4.

 

I guess it's too much to expect accuracy while reporting

 

IDK if this was posted yet...

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well they did. cuban complained to the league NBA officials. the NBA officials then tell the refs to watch out for moving screens. same thing dude.

 

with a league this big... it IS no wonder cheating is going on...

just a simple calc... 29 teams 82 games.. thats 2378 total games.. lets say 15,000 fans a game at 30/ticket.. thats over $1 billion a season... plus endorsements.. plus apparel...........so yea......

 

I have so much hatred for the NBA right now. Freaking death penalty will not be enough to satisfy my craving for blood and vengeance.

 

i am so frustrated right now that words cannot explain... fzking money hungry jew stern. our fortunes could have changed...if it wasnt for his old greedy ass.