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Dan Boren (D-OK): Obama most liberal senator

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    and his record is not bipartisan.

    [rquoter]Okla. Dem calls Obama liberal, declines to endorse

    By TIM TALLEY – 15 hours ago

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Democratic Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma said Tuesday Barack Obama is "the most liberal senator" in Congress and he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House.

    However, Boren will vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August and will vote Democratic on Nov. 4.

    "I think this is an important time for our country," Boren said in a telephone interview. "We're facing a terrible economic downturn. We have high gasoline prices. We have problems in our foreign policy. That's why I think it's important."

    Boren, the lone Democrat in Oklahoma's congressional delegate, said that while Obama has talked about working with Republicans, "unfortunately, his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion."

    Boren, a self-described centrist, is seeking a third term this year in a mostly rural district that stretches across eastern Oklahoma.

    "We're much more conservative," Boren said of district. "I've got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me. I have to listen them." He called Obama "the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate."

    Hillary Rodham Clinton carried Boren's district with 66 percent of the vote in the state's presidential primary in February.

    Boren said his endorsement became a moot point when Clinton suspended her campaign, making Obama the presumed nominee.

    "That process is really over with," he said. "Our nominee is not my first choice."

    But Boren said it will be a historic moment for the nation when the party nominates Obama, a man bidding to become the first black presidentg.

    "I celebrate it," Boren said. "It's a testament to the Democratic Party."

    In April, Boren's father, former governor, one-time senator and current University of Oklahoma President David Boren, announced his support for Obama.[/rquoter]
     
  2. mc mark

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    A centrist Democrat running for re-election in a heavily conservative district has something negative to say about Obama?

    Say it ain't so!
     
  3. SamFisher

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    I would like to see his methodology for this finding.

    Oh right, he has none.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    He has none for saying Obama is the most liberal Senator, and he also has none from saying Obama does not work in a bi-partisan fashion when the evidence contradicts that.

    Will basso be back to discuss this article he posted? Or did it say something he hoped would be true, so he posted it, and once refuted, will pretend like it never happened?
     
  5. basso

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    refuted by what/whom?
     
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    Well the part about him being the most liberal senator is refuted by his record and the fact that there is a registered socialist in the Senate.

    The part about him not working in a bi-partisan fashion is refuted by his record of bi-partisan sponsored bills and support of bi-partisan bills. He doesn't vote for everyone, and is against some of them, as he should be, but Obama has a strong record of working across the aisle as has been laid out in this forum many times.

    So Johnny Oklahoma's speaking points don't hold any water, and neither you nor Sen. Boren have provided any backup.
     
  7. yaoluv

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    Basso you should read Dailykos and Atrios more. You are slacking.

    If you read liberal blogs you would learn that Obama is certainly not the most liberal senator. In fact, true liberals are not really happy with Obama's senate record. The majority of Liberal internet 'hippies' actually supported Edwards in the primary.

    Obama's votes on continuing the war, sucking up to Israel, and the horrible bankruptcy bill among others have not earned him points with the liberal movement. To say he is more liberal than Ted Kennedy or John 'the most liberal senator in 2004' Kerry is quite silly.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Boren knows that if he endorses Obama, he is painted as a liberal and he loses re-election. He also knows that the attack ads featuring Jeremiah Wright/Michelle Obama will be flowing in the fall and it will not work to his favor if used against him.

    Obama runs significantly weaker than 'Generic Democrat' in all the polls. He's a weak candidate, folks. Thank you, libs, for nominating him.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    If he is so weak then you will have no trouble accepting the SamFisher Electoral challenge.

    Accept it. I dare you.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Sam, you continue to refuse to outline the rules of the challenge. Fine print details, please. Quit stalling.
     
  11. flipmode

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    most "ratings" are nothing more than popularity votes, so...

    http://voteview.com/sen110.htm
    Try this... it appears based on some formula I don't care to read into, Obama isn't significantly more liberal than McCain is conservative. Whatever that means.

    All I know is that I agree more with Obama than McCain.
    ... and since this is D&D, "McCain is a doody-head." :p
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Oklahoma = the most conservative state... Common basso this is from an Okie!!!.
     
  14. flipmode

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    and with this, goodbye to tj, basso and bigtexxx... see you in the next thread.
     
  15. Master Baiter

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    He posted them the after the first time he offered the challenge. You never replied. Here's a refresher:

     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    I need the fine print details, please.

    For instance, if Obama has to resign in shame prior to the election, you can not adopt Hillary as your candidate.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    You are scared to accept. Obviously if that happens Obama has lost. Either the bet is off, or Sam loses. Either way you wouldn't lose. Now quiet stalling, and accept it, or don't.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    fine.
    do you accept it or not?
     
  19. HAYJON02

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    Unless you know something we don't, I'm not sure where you're going with this point you repeat over and over. The same could be said of McCain...

    I'll admit for you that you're just daydreaming. You're so adorable and full of wishes! Make one for me!

    Sure, hypothetically if KG breaks his face, the Celts probably wouldn't win the championship. I wouldn't pat myself on the back for thoughtful analysis. Maybe you just believe in jinxs? So your point is you're superstitious? That might be your only hope, a plea to magic.
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    The most Liberal ~ quite a compliment indeed:
    _____

    Liberal: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

    Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
     

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