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Marc Jackson to T'Wolves for Dean Garrett, 2nd-round pick

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Swopa, Feb 21, 2002.

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  1. Swopa

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    Just reported on ESPN.
     
  2. SirCharlesFan

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    Was that even worth the Warriors time?

    I mean seriously. They net a late 2nd rd pick for all their troubles.
     
  3. Manny Ramirez

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    What a joke. All that for a second round pick? They passed on Phoenix's lottery protected #1 pick for a second round pick & a center that's averaging 1.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 5.2 mpg, & is shooting 35% from the field. You have my condolences Swopa.
     
  5. Swopa

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    Winds up as a wash, but given that Phoenix is throwing in the towel itself, how much is a lottery-protected pick worth from them? When would GS have finally gotten to use the pick?

    (Manny: :p )
     
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    It'd be worth more than what you got.
     
  8. Swopa

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    Maybe, but look at it this way. Suppose, just hypothetically :) , that the Warriors want to break into the 8-team Western Conference playoff club in the next couple of years.

    Minnesota's going to be in that club for as long as they have Garnett. Houston or Phoenix? Not nearly as certain.

    If you're not going to get much of consequence for Jackson in any event (and I never expected they would), at least you want to keep him away from the teams that are likely to be your most direct competition for a playoff spot.

    If Jackson had signed with an Eastern Conference team in October, the Warriors probably don't even consider matching the offer.
     
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    Let me see, Golden State was worried about making Houston better but were more then willing to improve the Timberwolves. Boy that Golden State front office sure is brilliant! :rolleyes



    Either way not signing Marc Jackson may have helped the Rockets since it gave Griffin a chance to improve his skills. A frontline of Griffin, Mo and Cato should be nice next year.
     
  10. HOOP-T

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    Dean who? I thought this thread was about basketball. :p

    UGH..........Minnesota all of the sudden is deep at PF and C. BASTARDS. Golden State is deep at.....hmmmm.....errrrr......
     
  11. Swopa

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    Hey, I think we're still deeper in guards-who-don't-shoot-well-enough-for-SG-but-don't-handle-well-enough-for-PG than anyone in the league! :p
     
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    I don't get it at all. They get a 2nd round pick from all this and send MJ to solid playoff team in the West. They alienate the Suns and Rockets and likely league FA on their team on off of it. I would imagine Garret has a short term contract so they don't lose on that end (not saddling another contract). That was not worth a late 2nd round pick by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    GS will probably use that #2 draft pick on another PF/C, you know to replace Dean Garrett. Unless, they re-sign him and don't play him...

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. saleem

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    It's a good deal for the Wolves,but bad for GS.
     
  15. Hottoddie

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    I guess you haven't heard about the second round pick that St. Jean acquired. It's not due until 2007, according to ESPN.

    As for the #1 pick from Phoenix, there is no reason why you couldn't have bundled it with another pick or player to make a trade in the future. A #1 pick is a #1 pick, whether you have it now or in the future. The odds of acquiring a sleeper that late in the second round, 5 years from now, must be astronomical.

    The only thing ST. Jean really did was to embarrass the organization, taint their reputation with free agents, & cost the team over $3 million in salary. All for a second round pick in 2007.:rolleyes: What happened to those two teams that were offering an unconditional pick for Jackson?
    Here's the ESPN article.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2002/0221/1338199.html

    Jackson shipped to Minnesota for Garrett, pick

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    Associated Press


    MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Timberwolves were ready to write it off as another fruitless deadline day when general manager Kevin McHale made one last call to the Golden State Warriors.

    By the time he hung up the phone, McHale had acquired a 6-foot-10 center who was desperate to get out of Golden State.

    The Timberwolves were the surprise winners of the Marc Jackson sweepstakes Wednesday, acquiring him from the Warriors for the relatively low price of center Dean Garrett and a second-round draft pick in 2007.

    The deal was struck just 10 minutes before the 6 p.m. ET NBA trading deadline.

    "This was the only offer we received. There were not any deals in the last 48 hours that worked for both parties in terms of the luxury tax and the salary cap," Golden State general manager Garry St. Jean said. "We went through the process and had a dialogue with a lot of teams, but there were not any takers.

    "A major factor in all of this for our team, as well as other teams, is the luxury tax and the salary cap. This was all that was out there," St. Jean said.

    The 6-foot-10, 270-pound Jackson averaged 4.9 points and 2.5 rebounds for the Warriors this season, his second with the team. He was a first-team All-Rookie selection last year when he averaged 13.2 points and 7.5 rebounds.

    Jackson signed a six-year, $24 million offer sheet with Houston before the start of this season, but he was a restricted free agent and the Warriors matched the offer.

    Golden State had been trying since December to trade him, and Jackson sat out the last 16 games as coach Brian Winters said he would use the players who planned to be with the team for the rest of the season.

    Jackson had the right to veto any deal, and he expanded his original list of three acceptable teams to include the Timberwolves, among others.

    Under NBA rules, the Rockets were not eligible to acquire him in a trade for one year.

    "You kept hearing stuff about how it was a done deal in places like Phoenix or New York," McHale said, "and every place you heard was a team that needed a physical presence. But slowly, it just didn't happen.

    "So, yeah, I feel lucky. But as in everything, the proof is in the pudding. We'll see how well the team plays. I'm glad to give him a chance to play for a winning team."

    Jackson will provide the Timberwolves with depth at center, where Garrett had played in only 29 games as the backup to Rasho Nesterovic and rookie Loren Woods. The Timberwolves, who played at Houston on Thursday, began the night just a half-game behind the first-place Dallas Mavericks in the Midwest Division.

    Garrett, who makes $3 million, will come off Golden State's salary cap at the end of this season.

    "We weren't able to get things done that we wanted to get done. We weren't going to wait until October to get something done," St. Jean said.

    Jackson was expected to join the Timberwolves for their game Saturday night at San Antonio.


     
  16. Hydra

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    Could Loren Woods become available to the Rockets? Maybe there is some way we could get him for Morris or something.
     
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    If it wasn't for Denver today, I'd say that's the dumbest trade I have ever seen :D
     
  18. Dave Jamerson

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    this is a classic case for waiting too long for the perfect deal and getting burned at the end..regardless, i don't think mjax is a player but they still had better offers out there,
     
  19. giddyup

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    Why not plant him on the IR and trade him + considerations to Houston for Moochie and KT next Fall.

    If you can wait 4 months, you can wait 12 months. He was a non-factor anyway.
     
  20. Live

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    Great point, giddyup. That's what makes this trade so puzzling.

    Why not wait until the offseason to get a better deal, preferably around draft time? Jackson will always be an attractive player, he's cheap, young, and productive, and may be even more attractive in the offseason.

    Unbelievable!
     

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