Does the Battier/Gay trade still bother/frustrate/infuriate you to this day?

Sounds good when it's not your money. Somehow I doubt Les Alexander was very excited about paying Stro $5-6 million a year for multiple years just so he can have an expiring contract in 2008-2009.

 

The trailblazers have been rebuilding for 5 years, '03-08, and are in the lottery again.

 

What was wrong with ronnie brewer? If indeed the rox wanted a atheletic, slasing,defensive wingman, I thought brewer fit the bill. He's not a 3pt shooter but he's a good midrange shooter.

 

I'll never get over this boneheaded decision...NEVER.

 

Ugh.....
DD

 

Wow stop your little crying. Im 18 years old and do I really need to tell the adults to stop crying over a trade that happened 2 years ago?

Even if your upset, crying about it isnt going to make the Memphis GM or owner (no matter how dumb or stupid they are) trade back Rudy Gay.


Go cry about something else, like out questionable future @ point guard, our star's durability, or etc.. but please do not cry about a trade that has been made 2 years ago and cant be undone like in Microsoft Word

 

the fact that killed me is, that the trade value of gay would have been ALOT more if we just kept him until the trade deadline. just the trade deadline, we could have gotten good franchise players that wanted to get traded. we could have gotten any of new jersey big 3 three. and to some extent, we could have gotten kg if the right deal was made. we could have gotten michael redd. we would have to add some contracts to make it work, but we had stromile 6 mill, howard 6 mill, and i'm pretty sure there were more ways to work it out. it was just a killer that we just got battier for win now situation. i mean, 2 seasons before that draft, we were going no where at the midpoint of the season. then we made some adjustments (via trades) and we were on a roll. look how easily pau gasol fitted in the lakers.

say what you want about battier being such a good defender. face the fact, that if someone offered you carter, jefferson, marion, or some stars that was going to be traded, and all they asked was battier, you would accept it. all we had to do was wait. i just thought our office was way to fast to react.

now we have to move on. it's the past, i'm just hoping we don't have another coach like jvg that influences the gm on who he likes. jvg was a good coach, but you have to hate him for bringing all these veterans, ex-knicks... charles oakley, rod strickland, mark jackson... and i also hope morey knows that was a mistake.

 

what kills me is that people know that we werent going to draft rudy gay if we had kept the pick and they still act as if he was in our radar and then memphis called after we drafted him and offered battier, everybody knows we picked him for memphis

seriously i dont understand it, let it go

 

Welcome to the boards SuperBeeKay....well spoken sir !

DD

 

Look at how the Spurs acquired Bowen and Udoka and how the Celtics got Posey. Then you will realize how much the Rockets got screwed on this trade.

 

What I don't understand is that the first year that Gay was in the league...he didn't produce like Battier did for us...At this point in history, everyone loved batman.

All of a sudden, Pau Gasol is not a grizzly and Rudy Gay increases his shot attempts by 7-9 per game. Put me on the court with that increase and my ppg will increase too.

If Rudy Gay was on the Rockets instead of Shane Battier, his stat line would be about 9 ppg 3 rpg 1 apg. He would be the 5th option behind tmac, yao, scola, alston, then gay.

If Battier was on the grizzlies right now, he would be averaging at least 10 ppg...look at everything and then cry about the trade.

If you don't believe me, then look at boki nachbar. There is a reason he did better with the NEts

 

Yeah, JVG was not his coach !!



DD

 

I feel he would be a better scoring option than Rafer for sure.On occasions Luis might outscore him but at other times I could see Gay getting more points than him. Battier might have averaged 13 points on the Grizzlies,he is obviously a better defender too,but I feel that everyone who prefers him is not taking into consideration the long term advantages of having a player like Gay on the Rockets. Tracy gets injured quite often,and unfortunately so does Yao.
We need a young,athletic scorer for the future.I'm not implying that Gay is a future T-Mac, but we don't have cap room and trading for another scorer will hurt us elsewhere.By the way Rudy Gay's FG percentage is .462 vs Battier's.428,his rebounding is 6.1 vs 5.1 for Shane.Rudy is young and is still improving. Some people say Head can get 20 points a game,does anyone really believe he can do it over 82 games?

 

I wouldn't be so sure. Battier has averaged more than 10.1 PPG ONE TIME in his entire career, and that was in his rookie year. It's not just that he's not a scorer, he barely participates on the offensive side of the ball. He doesn't have a reliable post up game, can't beat his guy off the dribble, doesn't back door anyone. He stands in the corner and spots up.

I could easily see Gay being the 3rd option. With T-Mac and Yao drawing the defense on every possession, there a plenty of opportunities to go around. Scola gets most of his points this way. Alston simply does not need to be shooting the ball.

I don't think it would've been a stretch for him to average 16 ppg, 6 rpg, 2 apg on this team last season.

 

If we have the player who can defend well, people will whine for the one who can score well

If we have the player who can score well, people will whine for the one who can defend well

Seriously, guys..

I feel we could have gotten a little more value out of the Grizzlies, but other than that the trade was OK by me

 

Yea, drafting Yao over Jason Williams was a big mistake.

Trading junk for Tmac was a big mistake.

Drafting Landry and Brooks with a late first and early second round pick was a mistake.

Getting Scola for Vspan was a mistake.

Also did you go to sleep instantly after the draft cuz it was made clear very quickly the trade for Battier had occurred.

 

First game last season.
Rudy Gay 7-15 16pts
Battier 4-0 0pts
Rox Lose.
The story is not that perfect.