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  1. Will

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    I have a question for anyone on the board who's fluent in Chinese and can spare a couple of minutes. I'm trying to report (for Slate magazine), as precisely as possible, what exceptions the Chinese government is making to its one-child policy for people who lost their children in the earthquake. A scholar has sent us this link with the following note:

    please check this gov. website for recent information on goverment's response to the victims of one-child familys. http://www.chinapop.gov.cn/xzzq/t20080531_194918031.html.

    I opened the link, and the page is entirely in Chinese. Can somebody take a quick look at it and tell me whether it has language spelling out the terms of exceptions to the policy? If it does, I need to quote them in an article today.

    Thanks for any help you can offer.
     
  2. ldg

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    the third paragraph specifically talks about it, but not very much detail is given. It basically says the local government should give specific considerations for people whose kids were either injured or died from the earth quake to allow them have more babies, depending on a lot of factors, such as how many kids they still have, the sex of the kids, and the seriousness of the injury. Below I copied the paragraph.

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       二、对有子女在震灾中伤亡的家庭给予再生育政策照顾。各省(直辖市)应当按照地方人口与计划生育条例的有关规定,对有子女在震灾中伤亡的家庭,根据灾后家庭实际存活子女的数量、性别、伤残程度,给予再生育政策照顾。涉及的具体适用政策,必要时应提请有关方面做出解释。基层人口和计划生育部门要采取有效措施,特事特办,为再生育家庭提供帮助和服务。 "

    Edit: paragraph 5 says that if a family adopts an orphan from the earthquake, they can still give birth to their own babies. Not sure this is relevant.
     
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    It definitely says that special treatment/exception will be made to families with casualties of children, though no specific policies were included as it's subject to the explanation of local government. Basically, how the exceptions will be made would dependent on number of surviving children, severity of injury if any surviving. etc.

    Personally, all criteria logically reasonable. Practically, I expect the bar to be set lower than normal given the national sentiment and attention.

     
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    "对有子女在震灾中伤亡的家庭,根 据灾后家庭实际存活子女的数量、性别、伤残程度,给予再生育政策照顾。"

    This may be the quote that you are looking for. It says:"To the families, whose kids were injured or killed in the earthquake, the benefit of additional birth should be given, according to the number, sex and injury of the kids who survived the disaster."

    It seems to me that the central government gave a green light and left the details of implementation to the local governments.
     
  5. Will

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    Thanks, guys! Can I throw one more at you? Here's the link:
    http://news.sohu.com/20080526/n257076833.shtml

    I'm trying to figure out whether the government has issued anything more explicit than a general "green light." I'm told that this article refers to some kind of official standard for determining whether you qualify for an exemption (second child). Do you see any language in it that clarifies this question? If so, can you give a rough translation of that language?
     
  6. freemaniam

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    I'd try my best but please bear with my poor English writing skill.

    - First of all, the article refers to ChengDu city's policy.

    - the govt offers "single child death/permanent disabled family aid" to parents with either the father or the mother is over the age of 50 and lost their only child / the child is permanently disabled in the disaster

    - The couple above will receive RMB600 per year per head until death. Parents from rural village will receive extra RMB600 per year per head after the age of 60. That is, a parent shall receive RMB1200 per year if he/she is 60 years old or above, live in rural village and lost his/her only child or his/her only child was permanently disabled due to the earthquake

    - Citizens can adopt "earthquake orphans" and not bounded by the one-child policy.

    - Families that violated the one-child policy but suffered from the disaster (maim, lost their home), the govt will suspend levying "Social Nurturing Penalty". Those who lost their children due to the disaster, the govt will cease collecting the penalty, the collect penalty charges will not be refund.

    I just translated the special terms word by word so you may need some other guys here to provide the correct wording for you.

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  7. wnes

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    Some relevant specifics that might be of your interest:

    - For those married couples that adopt earthquake orphans,

    * if they have not yet given birth to their own child (not for reason of infertility), they can still bear their own child and enjoy all the benefits and rewards -- including the Honorable Single-child Parents Card -- of single-child, late child-bearing parents, as stipulated by law;

    * if they are already the Honorable Single-child Parents Card holder, they can continue to enjoy the same benefits and rewards, keep the Card, and bear (one) more child if eligible. [if I am not mistaken, when both parents of a single child are themselves single child, they can legally have a second child.]

    - For those that have illegally more than one child,

    * if any family member suffers injury/disablement, family home collapsed or is in danger of collapse due to earthquake, the government will temporary suspend the collection of their Social Support Expenditure [a fine for illegal child birth];

    * if the illegally born child is perished in the earthquake, Social Support Expenditure will no longer be collected;

    * if only one child survives and he/she is less than 18 years of age, the family is eligible for Honorable Single-child Parents Card and all the benefits and rewards.

    - "Green Passage" for families whose only child are injured/disabled or perished

    * Government personnel at various levels of Family Planning Commission shall proactively work with those families of perished single-child, if the parents desire to have another child of their own. Such works include registration (of families of this need), new policy (regarding child-bearing rights) awareness, reproductive services card.

    * Medical identification shall be conducted on injured/disabled children of single-child families. If the child is certified to have second-degree or above injury or disablement, the parents shall be assisted to apply for bearing a second child.

    * Greater technical assistance (infertility treatment I guess) shall be rendered to those couples with difficulties in natural pregnancy, monetary compensation (for such services) shall also be provided.

    * Monetary compensation, living material assistances, as well as other social benefits are extended to family couples that badly suffer in the earthquake but do not quite meet the medical standards of second-degree injury/disablement of their single child.

    Note the above polices are from Family Planning Commission in Chengdu, the capital city of Sichuan Province where the 7.9 earthquake was centered.
     
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  8. Will

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    Everybody, thank you so much. The regulations are very complicated and apparently flexible, so your translations have been enormously helpful in clarifying them.
     
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    Dang, I don't know how people read that Chinese script. It's so small and blurry to my eyes it give me a headache just trying to read it and recognize a few of the symbols.
     

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