Kiplinger Names Houston #1 City to Work, Live & Play

Rocket G's post was NOT brilliant, it is only opinion. then vescey chimes in with his opinions and everyone thinks they are speaking to truth. these guys couldn't get it done. new york is not for everyone and not the easiest place to make your mark in and these guys fell short. i love new york, if you don't then don't come here, there is no shortage of people who want to visit or live in the greatest city on earth.

 

and how in the world did this become an NYC v. Houston debate? different strokes for different folks. that being said, NYC is an awesome city and i cant wait to go back. i would live there in a heartbeat (assuming i had a well paying in job and could live inside the city).

 

it was inevitable. i just chimed in because i was dissappointed with people like jeff and ima so willing to buy into the opinions of people who can't make it in ny. that's the real reason one left and the other plans to soon.

i agree with you 100 billion percent on the different strokes thing.

 

I was agreeing with the parts about Houston. I just skimmed over the parts about NY, since it's not relevant to me at all.

I'm kind of over this thread anyway*. It's pretty much run it's course. Houston is a crappy place to visit but a great place to live. That's pretty much it.





*I will probably be baited into posting in it again, though...

 

are they going to open anything instead of astroworld?

idk what the hell theres to do in houston for entertainment, we dont have a amusment park, no big site seeing cept NASA, the beach blows, i think its good for grown up to lives in but not for teens.

 

You're a blithering idiot.

Is your post even remotely serious?

So those who decide to leave NYC "didn't make it?"

What if - hypothetically - there's a person who has enjoyed their NYC experience, has advanced their career and income by leaps & bounds but was just offered a 30% raise over what already is a great salary - by an city's standard - by a law firm back in Texas and wants to be closer to family b/c members of their family are having health issues?

Would that still mean that this person didn't "make it" in NYC?

If, "thegary" you say yes, then you have the intellectual capacity of one of the sidewalk turds I routinely have to step over on my way to the subway.

I'm also curious - how do you view those who despite busting their ass in thankless jobs up here, have to live in Hoboken or Jersey City or even further out? Are they making it? The countless thousands in service jobs throughout the city? Are they "making it" by virtue of simply working within NY city limits. Does all of NYC count for you, or just Manhattan? Are the poor bastards in the upper Bronx making it?



Your posts in this thread are some of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on this board.

 

OK, Houston is hot late May to October/November. Most of Texas is. It's as likely to be 85 on Thanksgiving as it is to be 55. That's the annoying part about the Texas heat.

 

what some call annoying, i call enjoyable. the fact that a jacket is only needed 2-3 months tops is such an overwhelming benefit.

 

I think Rocket G, Vecey, and all the other New Yorkers opinions all have valid points. I lived in NY for 11 years and moved back to Houston. I still commute between NY and Houston for work every . Now I'm in California, (Orange County) and while the weather here is pretty nice, I can't STAND it here. I'll get to my post about Cali in a sec...

Back to NY....As I said earlier about public transportation - it's highly overrated. I don't think a train system would do well here. People love their cars way too much to detach from it.

Honestly, you can't compare the two cities. NY is just a very unique city. It's a place that teaches you quite a lot. I also had the experience of living in Staten Island, Manhattan and NJ during my 11 year stay. I enjoyed my life there.

However, I love my life here in Houston. I mainly came back to raise my family here. Houston to me is more of a family oriented city than NY. I just find it better. Economically, I made way more in NY than anywhere I lived but it's not about money for me. Funny someone mentioned Old Town Spring in an earlier post as I am not too far from that place. I love driving around and seeing horses, cattle, and pick up trucks. I love the food, the peace, and the laidback lifestyle here in Houston.

I love all the different festivals. NY has a ton of them too, but I just don't think you will see the Crawfish Festival, the Rodeo, the Renaissance, and other Texas traditions. All great fun for families. I just want my kids to grow up with some traditions i.e. become Rockets, Astros, Texans fans.

I wouldn't mind having my kids one day experience NY. I wouldn't even mind having them go to College one day up there.. I'd encourage it. However, I want them to be grounded with some Southern values.

With that said....

I hate Southern California. Too much traffic, too much segregation IMO, too much drama for me. Unfortunately, most of my family lives out here so I have to travel quite a bit now over here.

Someone asked me the similarities of Hou to LA.
-Smog
-Traffic
-Flashy cars
-Road Rage

Nightlife is mimicking LA here too from the music, to the lounges, fashion, and attitude. Nevertheless, I'm not in Houston for the nightlife anyways.

True story that happened to me while I was in New York the first couple of weeks. I used to commute into the city from Staten Island. Every morning at 7:10am, I would walk 2 blocks and wait on the corner to get on an Express Bus that would drive across the Verrazano Bridge into the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel right to my office downtown. One day, I lost my wallet going to work. It must have fell somewhere. The next day, my bus driver handed back my wallet with all the money and credit cards inside.

Another time, I lost my wallet living in the city. The same day, someone had messengered my wallet to my office after finding one of my business cards with nothing lost.

This past year in Houston, I had lost my wallet during the Christmas Holidays(Yes I know - I need to do a better job of not losing my wallet). In the 4 hours that I didn't realize my wallet was gone, someone had gone shopping to 2 Walmarts, 2 Walgreens, CVS, and a gas station and managed to charge over $600. Where is the love in Texas?

Despite that, I do think overall Houston is a great place for FAMILIES to work, live & play.

 

I made it and my mark in New York. I'm still making my mark there. However, I just love being in Houston. I could go back anytime I want but it's my choice not to for my family. If I was single, I'd probably still be in NY. That is not the case for me now as a father, husband, and multiple dog owner (I have 5). I just couldn't fit my dogs into my cramped Tribeca apartment.

Just because people leave NY doesn't mean they didn't make it.

 

that's fine that you prefer houston, i love houston too. however, every city on earth, hell, every place you choose to live will be some sort of compromise. my point is that there is no perfect place, we all must organize our priorities, especially if a family is involved. your reasons for leaving are yours and you have to live with them, it's cool. my objection came after what i thought were gross mischaracterizations by rocket g and vescey and the subsequent praise for them. i'm soooooooooooo sorry that i hurt rocket g's widdle feelings and i feel for him that he has to ride in that mean old subway with all those icky people. his comments were john rocker lite, couldn't let them pass.

 

I love it when people try to make the point that Texas people are more friendly. True they are the absolute most friendly people on earth IF you are the same color and same religion as them. If you aren't, prepare for the most close minded judgemental people you will ever meet.

 

Stop b****ing folks! Houston is a great city. I will live and die in Houston. I can't believe somebody actually used "low cost of living" as a negative for Houston. The one thing I think Houston needs is to do is decriminalize mar1juana. Other than that, its the best city ever! If you don't like Houston, stop b****ing get your ass out.

 

Talk about gross generalizations....

 

Leave him alone, he's just doing his normal schtick.

 

He won't be done with said schtick until he mentions his 6-pack and his outstanding status with the ladies.

 

Wow, is that seriously your rebuttal? Lame and insulting considering you know nothing about me. (But expected coming from a NYer.) Try attacking the message and not the messenger next time.

BTW, I had a perfectly fine life in NYC, thank you very much, complete with a good job and a swanky high-rise apartment. But I left it all behind as soon as the first opportunity arose (thanks, b-school!). Why? Because, unlike the blind worshippers of NYC (my brother included), I was unwilling to look past the vast number of negatives and trade-offs that plague NYC life. Personally, I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would put up with NYC life (except for those in finance pulling in ridiculous salaries), but hey, to each their own.

For the rest of you, just remember that there is a HUGE difference between visiting NYC and living in it.