Would you have called a foul at the end of the Spurs/Lakers game 4?

Most definitely have to call the foul if you ask me. Fisher jumping on Barry prevented him from getting off a shot, so of course you have to call a foul on that.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDc31xBkBg0

Looks like a travel before the foul...another blown call for the refs

 

I wont call foul but i'll call travelling

 

yip, Barry traveled b4 the contact.

 

I lean more toward the "a foul is a foul" school of thought, although I realize there are times that a ticky tack foul should not decide a game. But I don't think that jumping into a guy is considered "ticky tack", so it should have been called.

However, it's clear that Barry sets both feet, then lifts his left foot and then his right foot before dribbling. Traveling would have been the right call, and therefore I'm fine with the no call.

 

I think the contact from fisher forced him to shuffle is feet like that. He was knocked off balance. Since thats the case, I would call that a foul.

 

It was 100% a foul on Fish but it was before the shot.

(All though I was happy w/ the no call )

 

its a conspiracy

i'm glad people are discussing this reasonably

 

Maybe there was some contact, maybe he was pushed by Derek but I'd say or it was no foul or there was a foul, but good no call.

Remember, he traveled...

 

OF COURSE THAT'S A FOUL! The only argument should be whether that's a shooting foul, 2 FTs or 3 FTs. In every other game, and in every other occasion, when an opponent player leaves both feet and lands on you with full body, it is called a foul, why this is different? It was called 32412412 times already, a few hundred times for Reggie Miller, who tried so hard to explain why it shouldn't be called a foul because Berry didn't exaggeratedly act like he used to do.

You want to call that a travel? That's fine, but you have to make sure you are calling travels in other 342346534 occasions, scrubs or super stars in NBA shifting feet much more blatantly.

As a Rockets fan, I don't really care who wins. But most games are close games, a call here or there IS deciding the outcome of those games.

If the fact that landing your body on your opponent with both feet off the ground is a foul in basketball, Crawford & Co. only have a few explanation left that they didn't call it. None of them looks good.

a) They dislike Spurs
b) They like Lakers
c) None of them saw that in the mid court where nothing blocked their views
d) Because it's in the dying seconds of an important playoff game
e) Berry is NOT Kobe or Reggie
d) any combination of the above

Unfortunately, none of the above has anything to do with Sport or Basketball. So, on the end, a crucial game in NBA Western Conference Final, was decided by the Refs, NOT based on the rules, but their subjective decision which had nothing to do with sports.

Officials in NBA just have too much power, that's what's wrong with this game. Sure, Spurs were the beneficiary many times before, but that doesn't make the whole thing right, that a foul is not a foul when this and that, or when Mr. Official decides not to call.

 

Link please

 

What about Luis Scola's so called offensive foul on Andrei in game 2?

 

If you think thats a travel, watch everytime before Kobe makes a move.

That dude would be to China by now if you called that move by Barry traveling.

 

Watch again. Barry lifts his right foot to make a move just a split second before there is any contact. Therefore his travel had nothing to do with the "foul".

 

I initially thought it was a foul. But after watching the replay a number of times, I think it was a good no call (as much as I hate to admit it). You can't dribble under a defender while they are in the air and expect a foul to be called on them. That's essentially what happened.

 

I don't know...if you look at where Barry's body is when he puts the ball on the floor, he hasn't really moved from his initial spot yet. Therefore I would still say Fisher initiated the contact.

Tough call.

 

I don't think it's that tough of a call. It was a clear foul, not just a slight bump. The contact made it almost impossible for him to get off a clean shot, which is why it should have been called, even though it was the end of the game. I think the no call has to do both with the timing and the reputations of the players. Fisher is generally regarded as a good defensive player (despite his obvious tendency to flop) and Barry is just a bench player. There's no way the refs would have swallowed the whistle if that was Kobe or Lebron or even T-Mac. I don't like the double-standards.

 

Everyone can moan about the call but looking at replays, there would of been only one correct call that could be made.

I would of called travelling on Barry. If anyone looks at the replay again, he makes his right foot his pivot foot and he clearly raises it before the ball leaves his hands therefore, he travelled making any contact with Fisher null and viod.

 

To all the guys saying Barry traveled: C'mon now. He's clearly dribbling the ball as he takes that first step. Is he supposed to take a full dribble before moving his foot? Nobody does that, NBA or street. If that's a travel, then I dare you to show me a clean move because that was textbook.

To anyone who thought that was a 3 shot foul: It looks like Barry tried to get around Fisher and just threw up the shot AFTER the contact. In real time it's close, but he was dribbling.

I'd call it a two shot foul.

 

They were just being classy. It serves several purposes, such as possible better treatment from the refs in the next game, making people question why an official (Crawford) would have it in for such a classy team, and highlight the difference between the two coaches. Phyllis, of course, blamed the Spurs comeback at the end of the first quarter on the officials in a sideline interview. The contrast with Popovich here is striking. The Spurs know that plenty of people will be talking about this non-call; there's nothing to be gained by them joining in.

At any rate, Crawford strikes again.