[State of the Rockets 08-09] Everything you need to know

I think Scola will be our thrid scorer next year. He is shown what he is capable of is FIBA games and he even showed it at the end of this year.
We need more if possible to contend better.

 

Bumping this thread cause its an oldie but a goody.

The more I think about it the more I think Shane Battier is overrated and a liability on the offensive end. I love Shane Battier and I don't want to discredit him at all but his defensive prowess is blown out of proportion on this board at times. They say the best offense is defense or something like that. That's true to a certain extent. I disagree, the best defense is offense. Assuming we have Rafer producing like he did this year and a healthy Yao Ming next year... the only player we don't get enough production from is Shane Battier.

Therefore, I'd like to propose a deal with the Kings. Shane Battier + our 1st round pick to the Kings for Francisco Garcia and Kings 1st round pick. I have been a fan of Francisco Garcia's game ever since I first saw him play as a rookie and he made vast improvements from his 1st and 2nd year to his 3rd year (last season) and this is all with the emergence of Kevin Martin who plays the same position! And I truly feel the best is yet to come from Garcia. Garcia gives us everything we need. First off he's 3 years younger than Battier. He brings nice size... 6'7 swingman who can create his own shot, drive to the hole, shoot the 3pointer just as good if not better than Battier, more than solid ft shooter, good to above average athleticism and this guy is no slouch on defense either. Plus he plays with swagger, toughness and confidence.

I think this is a very fair trade for both teams because Shane has a very reasonable contract and he would make for good insurance in case Ron Artest decides to dip out of Sactown. For us I would be ecstatic to see Garcia in a Rockets uniform if you can't tell by now and by moving up in the draft we can
then select Nicolas Batum http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/nicolasbatum.html

That guy reminds me of a French Kevin Durant. He may take a year or two to develop but that will be fine cause it gives us youth and stability in the future while Garcia more than makes up for the departure of Battier.

Thoughts?

 

I like James Jones and Francisco Elson on that list

 

There is no doubt we need more offense and Battier could help the Kings out defensively but they need offense even more than us. The Kings can trade Artest if they want but I'm sure they won't give us a lottery pick plus Garcia who has done a lot for them,in fact with his 6'7" height he can play some minutes at SF in addition to SG.Garcia is a good defender and can score as well. He is an ideal role player for them. Battier and the 25th pick is much too little for the trade you are proposing.

 

That guy reminds me of a French Kevin Durant. He may take a year or two to develop but that will be fine cause it gives us youth and stability in the future while Garcia more than makes up for the departure of Battier.

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I like Garcia, as well, but I'd rather have him taking Rafer's place... with T-mac being a good ball handler and passer-Garcia would be a good complement adding athletic ability/length/shooting...He can also play SG/SF with Brooks on the floor (taking over Head's minutes)

 

Uh no way you have to be kidding me. I liked Garcias game when he was at Louisville in college, but as far as the NBA im still not sure, time will tell. But we are an organization that needs to win now. We dont do that by trading one of our most stable pieces the pasy 2 years. Garcia has some offensive skills but this is a horrible trade idea. Shane may not be as great as some people around here think but at the same time you are greatly underating him. And the guy is Dominican not French.

Anyways the reason I looked at this thread was see what free agents are available. I think adding a James Jones and Cris Duhon would be great. While they may not be the rugged tough guys I think we could really use, they are capable of filling some needs of this team. Duhon would be perfect backing up Rafer I believe and he has a good shot. James Jones is a killer 3pt shooter and is tall I believe he his 6'8 give or take an inch. Jones would be great with T-Mac and Yao and could really make you pay for double teaming either one. He could also spell T-Mac some. Not sure how much money both will want this summer but they seem like realistic options to me.

 

umm, wait a second -
didn't shaq re-structure his existing contract a couple years ago by getting an extension, and spreading the money around so it was $20 million every year? i distinctly remember this, blathersby.

i think it'd be possible to get T-Mac to sign a 2-year extension, and have his average salary bump down to, like, $13-15 million.

 

That might be impossible seeing that T-Mac is considered an Superstar, and all Superstars are making more every year.

 

That's an extension. It's different. If I'm not mistaken, Tracy McGrady isn't even eligible to be extended right now. Shaq was demanding that extension. That was a large part of why he was traded. He wanted more guaranteed money. I mean come on! If he was restructuring his contract so that it's more fair, how exactly does 20 million per year do that? It isn't even possible to make more than 20 million per year in the NBA these days.

 

Its a great offseason thread with alot of info, so i decided to bring it back.

 

I really think the Rockets should go after Pietrus. He's athletic, big and strong, good defender, crashes the boards, attacks the basket, and is a good finisher. His weaknesses are that he is not the greatest ball handler in the world and his outside shot is inconsistent. He can be that athletic 2/3 we're looking for to come off the bench. Mle money should be good enough for him, but I think the Raptors might be targeting him as well and might offer him the full mle. I like what he brings especially considering the Rockets have a weak bench.

 

I like Pietrus, but I like Ricky Davis more. Either way its a upgrade over the midgets.

 

but we need an explosive 3rd scorer. manu can score 20 anytime. ray allen can score 20 anytime. lamar odom can score 20 anytime. billups/hamilton/sheed/prince either one can score 20 any time.

scola is not gonna do that. he's very consistent though in getting his 12-15 pts.

 

In case people haven't noticed, the nba is several notches above Fiba. In those leagues he was the best big. In he nba, he probably 9 or 10 in the west.

Like the guy said, he can't consistentl get the 17-20 pts. Not to mention, that guy needs to be able to get it without tracy. The guy shouldn't so dependent like Scola is. I like him for 12ppg, but asking for more than that is really pushing it.

 

exactly, we need guys on this team who can score without the assistance of tracy. yao is the only one who can do that currently. we need to be able to rest tracy more and lessen his load.

 

The rox should have been in tune with this a few yrs ago. Like I've said, its cool in the clutch or late in games to give it to ur best playmaker, but early in games or throughout the season, they need to find ways to score without him. People always want to talk about tracy vs kobe, but as u can watch the playoffs and see the difference. Kobe goes out and the lakers either maintain or increase the lead. Tracy comes out and the lead shrinks or they lose it. That's a lot of pressure for 1 man and a coach to put up with.

 

What is even more astonishing is what Daryl Morey said in the Chronicle this morning!!!! I'm paraphasing, but he said, even though they have a lack of height on their bench, if a player has the skill set that the Rockets are seeking, then they are still going to draft him, even if he is small. Until they change this unconventional way of trying to construct a basketball team, we are going to continue to look at a 1st round exit. Other teams are going to continue to beat up on our 2 stars and manhandle our bench!! YOU NEED SIZE AND STRENGTH COMING OFF OF YOUR BENCH - SEE BOSTON.

 

I like your thinking.

 

guys baron davis?

the guys old butt he stilll prettty damn good..

getting old, he mayy look to get on a winning side that has great potential of making playoffs and finals..

and absolute leadership, hes a fighter.

maybe even marion?

i dont like AI coming to rox, firstly couldnt afford him let alone his ball hogness..

maybe elton brand, awesome pf..but i gues were not really lacking there..