No, I am not joining the leagues of the Cat hatas. I just hate how he gets no respect, even from those who are supposed to be his most rabid fans (for the slower people in the group, that would be the people on this board). I really hope that he gets cut and picked up by a team that actually has good fan support like Sacramento. When Jason Williams was on the Kings, his was the number one selling jersey, and Cat is way better than "White Chocolate". I would love to hear what all the hatas say if their crappy ideas to trade or even cut (yes this has been suggested) Mobley actually happen. When Steve is out there being triple teamed because the rest of this team is offensively inept. When Moochies minutes and isos both skyrocket. Where will all of the bashers be then? Well they will probably just find something else to b**** about, because there is no way they would attribute a drop in production to Mobes leaving. After all, to many he is a non-star Rocket Killer. Sadly, since Rudy and CD have more than half a brain and an ounce of loyalty between them, this will never happen, but a fan can dream can't he?
I agree - Cat is not appreciated. We have so many problems that Mobley is a bright spot - working very hard every nite. More Critical issues: Steve Francis Migraines Steve Francis ' contract extension??? Buyout of Glen Rice contract- as he is a non performing asset / obligation What to do in the draft??? Do we re- sign Kevin Willis??? The ship is barely above water - leave Cat alone - he is fine!!!!
Rockets will never ever win with Cat as the starting SG. Nuff said. I like Cat, but I like the Rockets more.
I'm getting tired of these backward "don't post this" threads. It's boring, it's whiney, it's punk. If you don't like the general tone on the board, make your own arguement for a new voice. Otherwise, stick it. People will post what they post. Consensus opinions become evident after a while, sometimes influenced by good writing, intelligent analysis and cogent arguements. That's your best path to appreciation for your favorite player or game plan.
Why do you rip on a proven NBA player like Mobley, yet praise a non-proven one like Dunleavy? I'm starting to get under the impression that you think Dunleavy is a god. The Rockets have more chances of winning with Mobley in the lineup than Dunleavy.
Someone give pasox2 a cigar -- that was <B>perfectly</B> said. I should add that to the pre-registration user agreement for the BBS... beautiful.
True that! Here's your cigar... IIIIIII[] Well, thats the best ones I got. Anyways, speakin on the Mobes issue, I think he is definately our best 6th man. Starting SG? Probably not. My idea is to move Stevie to SG, try to look for a good passing PG OR someone teach Steve how to get people open and hit them with passes. He even said it himself last Saturday when he was playing NBA live 2002 for a booth at All-Star Saturday. "I wish I could set-up people and make passes like that in real life." So do I Stevie....so do I.
Well, that isn't only Stevie, but the entire team. No one moves in the half-court set........nothing but ISOs. Also, the Rockets just don't know how to shoot, except for a couple players. Personally, I think it all goes back to the coach.....I guess Rudy is just too much of a "players' coach". We need someone to come in and teach this team to actually run some plays........as well as spend certain practices on NOTHING but shooting. And Mobley will continue to do what he's doing because the coaching staff allows it.
I'm getting tired of these ____ player sucks threads after every game. It's boring and repetitive. Do you not think we can remember that you like or dislike a particular player? Make a fresh, new argument instead of repeating the same damn things thousands of times. BTW, kidrock, I would love to hear how the Rockets could win with Vernon Maxwell at SG, but not Cuttino Mobley. If any of you think there's no bias here against Mobley, well, just look at ESPN.com's all underrated list. Even ESPN, who has been notoriously biased against the Rockets at certain points, can see his worth. The only problem here is that people can't accept injuries as a reason for failure, and have to blame it on a certain player. At least Cat has been out there playing through pain in almost every game. That's more than you can say for most other Rockets. You know damn well that if Cat were suffering through the medical problems Steve were, you'd try to blame it on him in some way, like a lack of conditioning or some other BS.
Cuttino Mobley (Rocket-Killing, non-starter material scrub) W FG 11-17 64.7% 3pt 3-5 60% FT 6-6 100% Reb 2 4 6 Assists 3 Stls 2 TO 1 BS 1 PF 2 pts 31 Michael Jordan (Possible greatest player of all time) L FG 5-12 41.7% 3pt 0-1 0% FT 1-2 50% Reb 1 5 6 Assists 11 Stls 0 TO 2 BS 0 PF 2 Pts 11 I see what y'all mean. I can't believe I ever thought to suggest that Cat was a good player and was underrated on this board. What an idiot I must be.
Hydra's argument seems to make a lot of sense to me. Cat has carried us many times. He has bad shooting nights, but many times he has gone off and the opponent doesn't know what to do with him. I like having that type of player. Overall, it is my opinion that Cuttino is extremely underappreciated. I sure hope we don't waive him, though.
Mobley is an awsome player. However I'd not have given this thread such a negative title, I was about to pass it up because this topic has upset me so much. Mobley is a true Rocket treasure as a integral part.
At this point in the season, Mobley is the Rockets' MVP. He shows-up night in and night out and brings it. Can't say that about the rest of the team right now. Hopefully that will change soon.
Give it a rest. Ask around. Ask people which backcourt they fear most in the league. Then asking them who will become a superstar from this past draft. Then sit and explain to them that MO TAYLOR and GLEN RICE won't be primary or secondary options in our offense even when healthy. Tell them Mo will likely play second-fiddle to Griffin, and Rice will be the scoring option just before Cato. If that's not potential to become a magnificent offensive team, than I don't know what is. Throw is the 6 blocks a game we'll be getting next year between Cato and Griffin, and you have an intimidating frontcourt. To say we'll never win a championship without Mobley is....Well, you catch my drift....
I do want to say that Cuttino has played exceptionally well this past month. I think I've said before I think he's a very, very good player. Not TMac, not Kobe, but very good. You can call me a hata if you like, but I will be cheering for him next game as loud as anyone. Not completely unrelated, you may not know this, but I was once a huge Vernon Maxwell fan. No doubt Cat and his fans draw some cheap shots and unduly heated blasts. Why? There must be something very frustrating. Are the hatas mad at Cat, or Rudy? I think players are what they are, and don't often change drastically after 3 or 4 years in the league. So I would guess the real frustration we see vented is with Rudy, and his game plan, offensive sets, the missing defense, the team roster and rotation decisions. People want to see us improve. How do we get better? What do you do with Cat and his skills? He's a real asset, are we using him right? Do you think the scoring backcourt attack will get us there? Spelling is for small-minded, nitpick nitwits. I'm not going to spell check my posts in word and then paste em - sue me. http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame59.html Anyway - good idea, hydra, etc., but I'd like to see another kind of post - what, have there been 4 or 5 of these sarcastic backward things this week? I know you're capable of it, you're good enough to do a straight-up praise post, and to go beyond individ. stats and outline your overall game plan. Best wishes in the court of bbs op. p
Why does everyoen hate on Cat? He averages 20 + points a game this year. Sure he's not a great passer, but he's a SHOOTING guard! A common theme is to favor trading for a more traditional PG and movign Steve over to SG. Problem, otherthan Nash, Tinsley, and Kidd, who else is there? Steve epitomizes the transition the PG position is undertaking. we are not going to find a better PG than Francis. And I dunno about all this crud Cuttino should be a 6th man or on another team he'd be a 4th or 5th option. How many teams have that many offensive threats - the Bucks? Who else? CAT can play. He may be frustrating at times but HE GOT GAME and is probably our MVP for the year.
Well first of all, nobody is going to confuse Mad Max with Mobley on the defensive end. Second of all, Vernon wasn't scoring 20 points/game shooting a bad % like Mobley. Vernon shot slightly worse but he didn't jack up nearly as many shots. In fact if you look at Vernon's career in Houston his scoring went down by a few points as the Rockets got better. Third of all, Mad Max averaged 5 assists in our championship season to Cat's 2.6 for his career so far. Fourth of all, Hakeem Olajuwon MVP who's not to be confused with anyone on this team currently. If Mobley were a defensive menace like Vernon, was scoring 13 points/game as our third option like Vernon, and we had an MVP caliber player like Dream we could probably win.
