1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Ricky Davis - Too Crazy??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JayZ750, May 12, 2008.

  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    37,264
    Likes Received:
    13,730
    Davis adds nothing to the team dynamic of basketball. He gets his and thats it. Id rather Bonzi Wells. Hell Id rather Mike James.
     
  2. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,728
    Likes Received:
    41,148
    Too sucky is the thing to take away here.
     
  3. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    ricky davis actually played well for the heat.

    13.8ppg, 43.3%fg, and 40.5% 3pt

    he hustled on D whenever i saw the heat play, and played within the offense (11 shots in 36 avg minutes)

    if we can get him (and not a guy like mike miller), he'd be a terrific backup for tmac/battier. more importantly, he has SIZE.

    luther may not score on offense, which is fine, but dude gets obliterated defensively b/c of his size.
     
  4. ElPigto

    ElPigto Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2006
    Messages:
    15,997
    Likes Received:
    25,599
    The only decent season I ever remember Davis having was when he was a 6th man in Boston. I think he came in second (to Ben Gordon) in 6th man of the year that season. Every other season he's been unmotivated due to the crappy teams he has played been in.

    I'm not sure what to think of this signing. I'm sick of low risk, high reward sort of deals the Rockets have tried in the past (Bonzi, Steve, Derek, etc), but I guess we could give it a go.

    I'll think about this more thoroughly and come back later and give a better opinion.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,521
    Likes Received:
    38,752
    How is his attitude, I always felt he was like a mini JR Rider or Miles.

    DD
     
  6. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    his attitude sucks if you put him on a team where he thinks he's the best. in miami, he knows it's dwade's and pat riley's team. pat riley made play guard the best scorer almost every game and he did it admirably.

    when he's on this team, he'll be our 4th option on most plays. and he knows what we're trying to accomplish and won't have any of that garbage.

    i think he has matured. when the heat played us, his defensive intensity on tmac was superb.
     
  7. YugoRocketsFan

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,650
    Likes Received:
    3
    You guys should really be appointed to a mental institution if you want Ricky Davis on the Rockets, the guy is a cancer, every time I saw him subsituted in, the guy just kills team chemistry, he makes dumb turnovers, plays no defense, dont take stats for what their worth, the guy sucks balls.
     
  8. Supa Scoopa

    Supa Scoopa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    0

    I remember that. Do you think he missed this dunk too to pad his stats....

    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m3lwssbS3Io&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m3lwssbS3Io&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>


    Despite his flaws, I wouldn't mind having him on the Rockets. Like someone else said, he's reportedly matured over the years.
     
  9. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    I would much rather see Ricky Davis "chuck" up 10 shots a night at 40% then to watch BJax and Luther "chuck" up the same 10 shots every night at their horrible percentages and get their tails burnt off on the defensive end. Davis can play defense...........when he wants to. Put him on a championship contending team and he'll get the want to.
     
  10. pmac

    pmac Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,395
    Likes Received:
    3,255
    His attitude is actually worse than those 2...but he has alot of talent and talent trumps attitude IMO.
     
  11. Dave_78

    Dave_78 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    373
    He is a career loser but at this point his game is something this team desperately needs.
     
  12. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,408
    Likes Received:
    2,640
    All this talk about how Ricky Davis is a chucker, yet he shot 43.3% this past season. Is that good? No, not really...but Tracy hasn't accomplished that since 2002-2003. Ricky also shot 40.5% from three last year, which Tracy has never matched. Speaking of things Tracy's never matched, Ricky played all 82 games in '07-'08. And then there's the free throws.

    My point? If I can tolerate Tracy without putting a bullet in my skull, I can sure as hell deal with Ricky Davis.

    Another thing is that he can play defense, even if it's on a "when I want to" basis. That's no worse than Tracy, and ahead of Luther by a mile. He can't play defense period.
     
  13. Possum

    Possum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2002
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    650
    Its funny how most people on this board knock every player suggested thats not an allstar. Then if you suggest an allstar........well you know. :rolleyes:

    Its a lose lose situation to make player suggestions here.

    Anyway -

    Would he fill a need? Absolutely!
    Would he be an improvement over Head? Absolutely!
    If he comes at the right price should we get him? Absolutely!
     
  14. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    God I hope not. Too often recently, the Rockets have taken trash that the rest of the league wouldn't touch, and fans have looked to them as the savior. Stromile Swift, Derek Anderson, Bonzi Wells, Mike James, all sucked, the rest of the league knew it, and the Rockets took a shot at them. Please Mr. Morey, don't add Ricky Davis to that list.
     
  15. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,817
    Likes Received:
    3,168
    For better or worse, DM the GM has a history with Ricky D from Boston days. I am confident Morey knows all he wants to about RD and any decision will be such.
     
  16. GATER

    GATER Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2000
    Messages:
    8,325
    Likes Received:
    78
    First off, Mike James...along with Brooks and SF3...was part of a machine gun approach to make sure the Rockets had enough options at PG. He was a disappointment. But Davis's career has hardly had the highs and lows associated with James.

    Your opinion of Swift, Anderson and Wells has a common denominator...Jeff Van Gundy. In most other places the trio played, they were productive for their salaries. Wells was productive under Adelman and I'd assume Davis would be the same.

    Ricky Davis is a long, long way from the days he deliberately missed a shot to get a rebound for a triple double. If you can't see how much more he'd bring to the rotation over Luther Head, you haven't watched him since those Cavs days. If you can't get Pietrus, the 6'7" Davis in the rotation for MLE $ would be an absolute steal.
     
    #36 GATER, May 13, 2008
    Last edited: May 13, 2008
  17. IamKhan

    IamKhan Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    770
    Likes Received:
    20
    if he has Yao's attitude, he would demand at least 10M a year. We are talking about 20-30% of that.

    Detroit took a risk with Sheed and got a ring, Miami took a risk with Walker and got a ring.
     
  18. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    After Toronto gave up on him, the Rockets chased Mike James, even though Jeff Van Gundy was asking for Matt Harpring.

    Ricky Davis would not be an improvement over Luther Head. Luther Head is a slight net-negative player against good teams, slight net-positive player against bad teams. Ricky Davis is a significant net-negative player against virtually everyone. He made the Wolves horribly worse, and even made the Heat (one of the worst teams in the league) worse. He battles Antoine Walker for worst player in the league every year.

    This infatuation with terrible players that happen to be athletic is ridiculous. If athleticism were that important, Memphis and Golden State would be the best teams in the league.
     
  19. Guru

    Guru Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2006
    Messages:
    524
    Likes Received:
    2
    At first, I was unsure about Ricky Davis, not only his attitude but also his game. However, after giving it some time, I think he would fit real well on this team. He has always been on bad teams, with rockets he gets a chance to be a significant part of the puzzle. He can come off the bench, and be better match up for the Manus, barbosa, Korvers of the world, definitely better than B Jax.

    Physically he is capable of playing the game we need him to play (slasher, shooter) and he will have motivation (Western conference, the final piece that puts the rockets past the 1st roubd exits) and finally, he can fit in our budget (MLE).

    The only question that keeps coming up over and over again is his mentality...well, with a caoch who has a track record of keeping idiots in check (Jayson Williams, Artest) I would have no problem with this signing.
     
  20. Dave_78

    Dave_78 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    373
    The more thought I give this the more I like it. I honestly believe the winning culture that this current roster/staff has created seems much too strong for one guy to come in and destroy. I think it is more likely that the guys on this team would rub off on Davis instead of the opposite. I also think that if he refused to play Rockets' style of basketball he would sitting on the bench on IR or get shipped out. This team seems to genuinely like each other and I don't think they would tolerate a malcontent.

    Oh yeah, and his skill set is exactly what this team has been lacking.

    The "small" lineup this team could put on the floor would be awesome.

    Tmac
    Davis
    Battier
    Landry
    Scola

    Not a guy over 6'9" but not a guy under 6'7" and three of them are pretty fantastic athletes.
     

Share This Page