This is the first post of this thread. Hermann has played about 579 minutes in the NBA so far. I watch hours of NBA film all the time as a hobby. I've been doing this for years. I'm not a Hermann fan nor hater, but I definitely have seen him play and know exactly who he is. Do not say something like "you haven't seen him play" to me and not expect a long debate because I'm pretty confident about my basketball analysis opinions. So when I believed that Hermann does not have the footspeed laterally to play SG nor SF, it was just a hunch based on what I've watched without the statistical evidence. Do you honestly believe Hermann is going to be chasing wing players around picks? He has decent athleticism, but it's definitely not wing type athleticism. After the research, it's evident that when you play 579 minutes in the NBA, with 0 minutes at Shooting Guard, and 19 minutes at SF, you are not a SF who can slide to the SG position. He can guard the few slow SF's in the NBA. His shooting would be an asset at the PF position because he can draw big defenders away from the hoop. Are the Rockets looking for that? It COULD help, but I just don't think it's anywhere close to the top of their list.
I think a really good analysis would be looking up 82games.com and putting up the 5man bench rotations of every other Western Conference (and if you want, Eastern Conference) team. For example, when San Antonio goes to a lineup of: Duncan, Finley, Bowen, Ginobili, Parker What do the Rockets counter with and where does Hermann fit into that situation? I'm asking this because I believe (I haven't done the research yet) that there are very very very few scenarios where you can take another Western Conference team 5 man on the floor scenario and put a Rockets 5 man team out there with Hermann at the 3 spot. Maybe my opinion is wrong. Gotta go for now, but I will be looking into this later. I'm pretty sure, most 5 man units (including bench players) that the ROckets will go against, I'm pretty sure if they had Hermann, he'd be a 4 matchup and extremely rarely a 3, but never a 2.
We have Yao, San Antonio will not put Duncan on Yao straight up so he wont get in foul trouble. Therefore we will rarely have to face a lineup like that.
From DraftExpress.com: From NBADraft.net: From an actual Bobcats fan that watched most of his games last year... From ESPN.com: More sites that list him as a SF: http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/1137130 http://hoopshype.com/players/walter_herrmann.htm http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/walterherrmann.asp http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...bobcats/players/walter-herrmann/stats/07/3/37 Notice that the last link there says (contrary to 82games) that he played 539 minutes at SF last year vs. 278 minutes at PF and 116 minutes at C. It also says he virtually split 223 minutes at at SF and PF with the Pistons this year. It's pretty clear to me that the guy has the skill set and physical attributes to play SF (as advertised), even if the circumstances call for him to play PF. He played most of his games at PF in Charlotte when Sean May got injured, and I would guess that he doesn't get tons of the garbage minutes at SF in Detroit because those are reserved for Amir Johnson. Here's a link to a fairly lengthy blog entry suggesting he takes Jarvis Hayes' (a SF) minutes in the Detroit rotation... http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archi...e-solution-why-herrmann-should-replace-hayes/ Just because the guy has played some PF doesn't mean he can't play SF...
I don't know if Barnes would come cheaper but he is more athletic and is a better defender. This year Barnes' salary was 3M.
I would love them to do that. Yao, McGrady, Hermann, Battier, Alston. In the lineup you are listing, Bowen is the most likely to be playing PF, so I'll put Hermann at the PF spot. On the offensive side of things he'll be a mismatch for whoever is guarding him unless they put Bowen on him.
Man this cat is energetic and very athletic! I love how he's able to palm the ball! He seems like a nice addition to the squad!
I think he would be an excellent cheap pickup. Caution, though, that a month stretch of good shooting does not make a 50% shooter and 45%+ 3 point shooter. And while not ancient, he is 29 already. Also, this link - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents - says he is restricted, not unrestricted. At the same price, I'd prefer Barnes, I think, but he will be more expensive. I'd certainly prefer Pietrus at a similar price, and would pay more for him, because assuming everything else stayed the same, we need a backup SG/PG "tweener" type more than a SF/PF tweener type first. Pietrus would be a taller, quicker, better version of Luther Head. Some other players at similar prices I'd at least look into: James Jones (player option), Michael Finley, Roger Mason, Leon Powe (what does limited salary protection mean?), James Posey (player option), Devin Brown, Antoine Wright, Ricky Davis (though he's definitely crazy), Nachbar, Keith Bogans (player option), Giricek
The man lost his family in a car accident. Damn! I don't know if i would be able to see things the same after that either. I hope he pushes through the tragedy. Looks like a helluva baller.
ah...that sucks. Powe could be a good pickup, but I see no reason why he wouldn't make the Celtics squad next year (not like a Loren Woods...)
This dude can do a lot of things that other players can't do because of his massive hands. Look at this vid and the way the ball looks like a little nerf ball in his hands. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/saYVKxLsJes&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/saYVKxLsJes&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/82iihDAxDLA&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/82iihDAxDLA&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
being an argentine myself, i got a chance to see plenty of walter. he's got huuuge hands, has won plenty of dunk contests here and in europe. likes going to the rim a lot, always with the right hand, can do crazy layups over the past years has developed a good mid range and 3point shot he comes off the bench for the national team, just like delfino in the right system can be a good contributer from the bench, i remember how he came big time during the last olympics hitting shot after shot given the chance he could be part of the 2nd unit. he is also a decent rebounder and has good hops
he got the same problem as Scola though. He always goes right. Scola needs to develop a shot with the left hand.
Well, he was at 50.4% FG / 44% 3PT for the entire time he was in Charlotte and is at 48.5% FG / 40.8% 3PT for every minute he's played in the NBA thus far (93 games, 1,308 minutes). In limited/sporadic minutes, that is pretty incredible. And you're right, I've seen that he's restricted as well, but hoopshype.com shows that his money is up. If anyone could clarify, I would appreciate it. I'm not at all concerned with his age, since we would only give him an inexpensive 3, maybe 4 year contract and he doesn't have a history of injuries.
1) I have totally given up on Steve Novak after the post season, and everyone else should too. This guy is a phenomenal shooter with great length, sure, but he will NEVER be a rotational player with his 210-lbs skinny body and (current) Chuck Barkley-like speed. 2) Hermann seems intriguing enough of a player to possibly crack the rotation, and if the price is right ($per year < 2 million, length </= 2 yrs), perhaps we should give him a chance. 3) As far as concern about his speed goes, experts had the same doubts about Scola, and they were right that Scola's slow laterally, but he has shown to be able to overcome that. Hermann, at comparable size, seems significantly faster than Scola. 4) What position will he play? It seems that Adelman likes to play small ball with his second unit, so Hermann can play some 4 with the second unit, or relief Battier at the 3 alongside Yao. But I am merely speculating. No, Hermann won't be the Rockets' savior, and it would even be unrealistic to think he will bring scola/landry-like effect, but he may be a pleasant surprise. Regardless of the Hermann situation, we really need to get rid of Novak or banish him to the basketball purgatory known as NBDL. If you are reading this, Novak, prove me wrong by hitting the gym and putting on at least 20 lbs of muscle over the summer. Otherwise remain obedient on the far end of the bench!
i've watched hermann play here in detroit and he is not that impressive. athleticism is lacking. is d might be slightly better than novak's, but on the aggregate he is not significantly better. if detroit doesn't bring him back there'll be a reason for it...
