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NC & IN

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, May 6, 2008.

  1. Harrisment

    Harrisment Member

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    I thought the same thing hearing him speak. I don't know if he really didn't understand the questions, or just didn't want to answer them.
     
  2. LongTimeFan

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    He's repeating the same thing, regardless of the question! This is getting hilarious. I should run for mayor in Gary.
     
  3. rimrocker

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    As someone else pointed out, this is about two things:

    Perception, which Hillary has lost even if she manages to win IN, and reality, which is one delegate... one delegate that will not make a difference.

    Obama will win the most states.
    Obama will win the total popular vote.
    Obama will win the pledged delegates.
    Obama will be the 2008 Presidential Nominee of the Democratic Party.
    Obama will be the next President of the United States.

    And I must say that even though I have been lukewarm towards Obama and he was my third choice (Gore, Edwards), I am proud to be a Dem tonight.

    Now, I'll go throw a few more bucks to the Obama campaign and start talking to friends to figure out where we want to go work this fall.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    He knows what they are asking and will not dress the issue. It's a problem and he isn't about to admit it.
     
  5. Harrisment

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    This is awesome. The 2 mayors are getting into it. LOL. "It's a computer."
     
  6. jgreen91

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    Unfortunately he's black so certain people will claim that there is some sort of corruption because of that.
     
  7. LongTimeFan

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    huh? :confused:
     
  8. Harrisment

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    People will think he's corrupt because he is black? I think those people are what we like to call "racists"
     
  9. A_3PO

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    So it looks like she wins by about 50.6% vs. 49.4%. This is "huge". :rolleyes:
     
  10. jgreen91

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    CNN declares it for Hillary. Very very narrow margin. Thanks to the Rush Limbaugh factor. If Repubs hadn't meddled, then Obama wins.
     
  11. jgreen91

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    Well I'm talking about T_J and Texx, but you said it.
     
  12. Mr.Scarface

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    She can thank Rush Limbaugh and his operation chaos for her margin of victory.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    If this is really true, I think she might pull out tomorrow.

    Then her new campaign starts: To be chosen as veep.
     
  14. Grizzled

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    I think it is huge, but huge for Obama. When the dust has settled from tonight I think people will see that today had to be the “turning point” Clinton talked about if she was going to have a chance. It wasn’t. Instead she lost by a wide margin in NC and squeaked out a win by the slimmest of margins in Indiana. She called the victory early but only saved face by a whisker in the end. Pretty clearly the race is over, and now in order to preserve her political reputation I think she needs to bow out. It also wouldn’t surprise me if she has a talk with Obama tonight and a agreement is reached about her future in his administration.
     
  15. jgreen91

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    Nah. If you listened to her "victory" speech, you'd see that she has no intentions of pulling out. No way. I think she realizes that today sucked for her, but I think she canceled her shows tomorrow because she is going to go back to the drawing board and come up with some manipulative crazy plan, she'll go down with guns blazing and mouths lying.
     
  16. Drexlerfan22

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    Yeah, that sounds like Hillary to me.
     
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  17. rimrocker

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    I think now it's the staggering marathoner who is struggling towards the finish line long after the winner has been given the medal.

    She'll stay in through the rest of the primaries, but only in a nominal way. She won't be able to raise money and has no hope of winning the nomination. I think she'll tone down the attacks on Obama and ramp them up on McCain.

    The good thing about all this is that it forced Dems to play in every state and organize in every state. This will bode well for the fall.

    Obama will be flush with cash again tomorrow morning, which will be the first day of the general campaign. Look for a big national bump over McCain in the next week or so.
     
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    IIRC, early polling has Hill up very big in Kentucky and Virginia. Why pull out when she has two big wins coming up? Kos made a funny point earlier today: Please don't drop out, Hillary! If Obama loses KY and VA when you're not even competing, it would be embarrassing!

    Tonight was big for Obama. He's had the worst couple of weeks ever, momentum seemed to be going to Hill, the polls showed her increasing the lead in IN and gaining on Obama in NC. They were wrong.

    How funny that Hill's "win" in IN could be due to Rush Limbaugh fans- ouch. :)

    No, Hill doesn't drop out now. All that happens is she moves the goalposts. Again. The narrative will change. Again. Her hopes for a 'comeback momentum' narrative are dead. I guarantee from here on out she will be screaming bloody hell about voter disenfranchisement in FL and MI. That will be the new narrative: FL and MI. Bank on it.
     
  19. Nolen

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    Waitaminute. It looks like I may be wrong. Apparently Obama gains about 250,000 popular vote in NC and hill about 20,000 popular vote in IN- doesn't this mean that we could seat FL and MI in full, as is- and it still wouldn't change an Obama victory? If so, Hill truly has no narrative, no message, nothing to run on. Well, maybe working class white voters in VA and KY. But that's about it.
     
  20. Homey the Clown

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    I wonder who will be Obama's VP...

    some are saying:
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    and others are saying otherwise...

    :confused:
     

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