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What makes a superstar? Are Tracy and Yao superstars?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pmac, May 5, 2008.

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Are Tracy and Yao superstars?

  1. Yes, they both are

    120 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. Yao is but Tracy isn't

    35 vote(s)
    15.4%
  3. Tracy is but Yao isn't

    23 vote(s)
    10.1%
  4. neither of them are superstars

    50 vote(s)
    21.9%
  1. Bassem

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    Listen, T-Mac played like a superstar in the playoffs, he was great on both sides of the floor. You can't blame anything on him because he did what he had to. All the superstars are really acreditted and put under the spotlight when his team performs well. T-Mac did a better job then most players today can do with the team during the playoffs, and so I still believe T-Mac can definitely (if he plays hard everyday) be a superstar.

    Yao was definitely reaching that peak this season, and it was just sad to see him go down when playing at his best. Both Yao and T-Mac still have a lot of time, and as the team gets better through time, they will, in turn, play better, and get that same attention as other superstars like LBJ or Kobe or Paul.
     
  2. flamingdts

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    I am not disrespecting nor comparing Hakeem to anyone else. If you read my post, I did say "even hakeem had tons of help", but at that point I wasn't specific enough. I meant even Hakeem had tons of help as in tons of reliable players, not all-stars.

    Hakeem is a great player no doubt about that, but his championship roster was alot more consistent than the rockets, and at least 4 rocket player in that roster are clutch 3 pt shooters. He is definately a all-time great HOF no doubt, but Hakeem didn't single handed bring the Rockets backup. In the playoffs did you know how many rocket players stepped up in that team..... Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry.

    Hakeem is amazing, and a HOF, but there is no such thing as a one man team who could win championships. Never have, and never will.

    And I do agree that you should wait till next season before actually voting. In fact, the rockets are the ones to watch out for the most. T-mac was amazing earlier this season because he was full of confidence, if he can work on that, then he is no doubt a superstar.
     
  3. lunaticrocket

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    When you start seeing a guy in major TV commercials, that's a superstar.
     
  4. wekko368

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    The 1994 team may be the worst team to ever win a championship. Kenny Smith was the only good 3 pt shooter (40.5%). Horry shot 32.4%. Cassell shot 29.5%. Elie shot 33.5%. Maxwell shot 29.8%.

    Yeah...what a consistent team.
     
  5. vince123

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    top 3 leading scorers for the playoff 2007-2008 are? 27, 8.2, 6.8 , are these the stats of an all star or a superstar?
     
  6. deion_se

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    "Superstar" is so cheap today. MJ was a superstar, Dream was superstar, Shark was a superstar...... T-Mac was a superstar back to his scoring champ days. But right at the moment, neither T-Mac nor Yao is superstar calibre player. Look at what they have accomplished those years, it's shame to say a player a superstar without even advancing to the second round.
     
  7. wekko368

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    If you're going to label a player a "superstar" based on their numbers in a 6 game span, then a ton of NBA players should be considered superstars.

    Btw, 1 total point in the combined 4th quarters of game 1 and game 2. Is this the stat of an all-star or a superstar?
     
  8. vince123

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    6 games span in the playoff?
     
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    please you make it sound as if the big stiff never... had a hand in the record that Rox managed to compile this year...

    Tmac is a declining star...he is not a superstar...

    Yao is a star who could be a superstar...if they make him the number 1 option in the years to come...

    Tmac has had 11 years as the number 1 option... its time for him to become the facilitator... something I believe he cant be...

    because he has the same mind set as his Tmac fans... who expect him to put up superstar numbers until he retires...
     
  10. Jeremiah

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    Yao is getting there. TMac doesn't have it anymore.
     
  11. pmac

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    I was saying that Hakeem was the only star on that team. Don't go over board now and definitely don't disrespect that team. :mad:

    This is why you can't always stare at stats. Those guys weren't bad 3pt shooters.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    then name me who had better #s than tmac besides kobe, lebron, and chris paul all-around?

    he also forgot to add 1.5 steals and 1 blocks in there, along with playing without your starting center + PG for 2.5 games.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    yao has been the #1 option the past 2 years dude. the reason he doesn't get more shots is b/c he's so easily taken out by some teams.
     
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  15. MayoRocket

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    When they are healthy, they are both superstars.
     
  16. Layupdrill

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    QFT -- I agree
     
  17. pmac

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    I knew this was coming, it's too easy. You can do better tinman.

    and by the way, I know you're all about outing the non-real fans, did you see what wekko368 said about the 94' team? blasphemy.
     
  18. Jeff Who

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    What makes you a superstar? That's easy. Abillity to carry your team. Tracy showed he can do that and I think so can Yao.

    Yes, they are
     
  19. el_locoteee

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    Superstars are the one that get all calls. Then, neither T-Mac or Yao are superstar. :D


    But seriously, I see Superstar to the ones that have a chance to be in the HOF and one on one can't be defended because they are superior talent in his time. Superstar = Backbone of a franchisee.

    Tracy is going to the HOF and he is now peaking in terms of being a winning player. He is over talented probably one of the top in NBA, he has carry Orlando, he has carry Houston multiples time and win due to to injuries to key players. They guy have one of the best stats in the playoffs. He can do it all and he is can't be guard one on one, or even with double team.

    Yao last 2 years have been the best center in the world, can't be defended, is extremely talented, is peaking now. Have to carry his team due to injuries to T-Mac and other key players. They only thing keeping him from HOF status going to be health(**** you China). His inability to stay healthy is a big factor to be consider a superstar, but when healthy he sure is the best in his position.

    We have two superstar but they are two injure pron superstar. And if you add the faq they are treated by ref like role players makes it worst. Kobe, Lebron, Duncan etc. can have a bad night but they sure get all the calls and phantom calls as well as getting away with tons of traveling AKA Lebron's game.

    Yes we have 2 superstar. But can we have them both playing at the same time when it matter must? Well that is a different story.
     
  20. wekko368

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    My point was that superstar status cannot be levied based on a 6 game span. When mike james was in toronto in 05-06, he had a better year statistically than tmac had in 07-08. Does that mean that mike james was a superstar in 2006? No. It means tmac wasnt a superstar in 2008.
     

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