Ok so do we give Tmac another year, or shop him this summer?

definitely one more year... they SHOULD be able to integrate a lot more of Adelman's offense next season and hopefully EVERYONE stays healthy.. defensively they should be okay

 

I want him to stay too, but what you are saying scares the crap out of me.

Tmac has never thrived playing off the ball, NEVER, and he has resisted all year........

If he is not going to commit to running Adelman's offense then I am all for trading him....NOW.....

They need a long sit down talk with TMac....a come to Jesus meeting.

If he is on board....great....if not....ship him to Siberia !

DD

 

What about trading T-mac for Josh Howard and Jason Terry.

 

Man, that would be tempting.......Howard is seriously struggling......and his mar1juana admission is troubling, but that is a very interesting deal.

DD

 

Did everyone forget the first few games of the season when everyone was moving and being aggressive offensively? Tmac played off the ball quite a bit but for some reason guys stopped making shots and started stagnating.

That is what led to the dleague all stars watching game. He and Yao had to demand the ball for them to win.

 

Then we would have NO ONE who could create for others. The only reason for trading for tmac would be to get a much more efficient scorer and a good pass first PG. Why would you trade for another inefficient scoring wing player and a short SG.

 

It'd be a lot more tempting if we weren't trading with Dallas. I'd pass on that reason alone.

 

I think people have often forgotten that the status of Tmac and his situation with the rockets.

Even before the 22 winning streak, Rockets position hasn't change a bit. I doubt it will change at all even we loses this time.

What's Rockets position?

- we won't actively shopping Tmac around, because there is no equal value out there. no one will offer another superstar for tmac, it will be some draft picks and role players. we will be like the memphis offering gasol for nothing.

-However, if other teams approaching us about Tmac, we will open our ears and listen.

The door to trade Tmac is not close, but we won't trade away tmac just for the sake of getting rid of him.

 

Yes, we would need to get a quality PG to make that work.

DD

 

Without Yao, T-Mac is the number one option. Of course opposing teams will be doubling him. It's amazing we have gotten as far as we have. The pundits were saying when Yao went down that we wouldn't make the playoffs but yet here we are. Maybe if we had gotten a higher seed, we could have played the Mavs but there are no easy teams out there. I sorta expected that we would have difficulty against big strong teams that could push us around in the post.

 

ok, the only way i see this team improving this off season is having owner overpay and get quality free agents.

Tmac is where he is, we don't and unable to trade him for anyone on equal value.

we want to win now and we need to add valuable pieces thru FA.

we need scorers who can creat their own shots. it doesn't matter which position other then SG and C (where tmac and Yao played).

 

Then why the hell did we trade Bonzi Wells for Bobby Jackson?

 

Thank you, to really be good you have to overpay a few guys. Other than the expiring contracts and tmac no one is really getting paid much. We have a lot of role players for cheap but you get what you pay for. If we can break the bank this offseason and use those expirings we'll be pretty good.

If you look at other teams that are successful, they either have a few over paid people, young stars (soon to be overpaid), or in the spurs' case a couple great players who are getting robbed (Ginobli and Parker).

 

So we trade away our only playmaker and hope the good PG just falls in our lap? The same one we've been trying to get all this time. If we could get a quality PG that way, there would be no reason to trade Tmac.

By the way, i think the Mavs do that trade in a heartbeat. Those guys are both iso shoot first guys who can't set up anyone else and their both around the same age as tmac. JKidd, Tmac, Stackhouse, Dirk, Dampier they might win a championship with that lineup.

 

You guys have no clue about the salary cap. We're way over the cap, meaning we're limited to how much we can pay players - MLE only. There's a reason you don't see a team like the Yankees in the NBA - you can only spend up to the MLE when you're over the cap.

That said, the only way to get quality free agents would be to do a S-n-T. That's what you guys should be exploring.

And Bonzi would've been a free agent this off season anyways, and with having to resign Landry, I'm not sure he'd bite on how much left we'd have to offer. So yeah Bonzi might have helped us a little more than BJax this year, but next year BJax's value will sky rocket since he is an expiring. Therefore, I still like the trade, assuming we can get a quality player in exchange for BJax.

 

i wouldnt trade tmac. jazz are just beating the crap out of him making him work.scoring against 3/4 different defenders gets tiring especially how physical jazz plays. what we need is a another point guard w/ speed and size and can shoot.rafer playing well but we are to undersize at guard position w/ head,jackson,brooks. i thought it was a bad trade for jackson for bonzi and james. could really have used bonzi in this series just for size and physical play inside and rebounding.jackson cant make a shot consistently and misses easy layups and cant be a playmaking point guard.i would trade hayes for a more athletic pf that can shoot and long (antwain jamison would be nice but want to much money even jermaine o neal or josh smith) he a good defender but thats it (misses layups and cant make a 10/15 foot jumpshot and free throws).i would trade luther head he decent in regular season but playoff time chokes. if steve francis comes back next year and becomes the old steve that rockets had early days w/ more passing then just dribbling we can contend next year.

 

There's nothing you can do about it bro. Our stars are not healthy enough long enough. That applies to both T-Mac and Yao. You have to give it one more season. This season was promising before Yao went down. That you can't deny. If you give that team a little more time and maybe 1 or 2 better players, we are going to be deadly.

If something goes wrong next season then blow it up. But why are you going to take a chance on a trade when you KNOW you could have been good, all you need is the whole team to be relatively healthy.

 

I have a clue.

Almost every team in the NBA is over the salary cap. Most teams spend the MLE on a good player to improve talent. The rockets have preferred to sign more players on smaller contracts than to sign a good player on a bigger contract and their talent level suffers. They aren't in one of the worst salary cap situations. In fact, the only teams in really good cap situations suck.

If they had used their MLE effectively they would be good enough to lure in those good old vets for cheap like the contenders always do.

 

You absolutely have to keep him one more season. Even if his value is diminished next season he becomes far more valuable as an expiring contract and we are far more likely to get value out of him. Trade him in the upcoming season and that assures us a lottery appearance because we're gonna get a Gasol type deal where we get the poo end of the stick.

I really think that this is all a product of bad timing the last two seasons we haven't had the supporting cast but they managed to make it into the post season with Yao and Tmac relatively healthy. This season we do have the supporting cast but we limp into the post season without Yao. The injuries at this point are a huge issue but I really believe this team can win with the combination we have right now. Roll the dice one more season and then blow it up if we're bounced again in the first round.

 

QFT - Tmac should play out his contract and then retire as a Rocket. Injuries suck.

This season sucked (save the guts needed for a 22 game streak)... if they can't stay healthy again oh well... its just a game. We'll all be dead in 100 years and none of this will matter anyways so I say let Yao and Tmac do it together.