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All down to a bad trade!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by waihh, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. Shaud

    Shaud Member

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    Honestly B Jax isn't that much greater then Mike James, the dude has shot poorly, double dribbled while walking up the court unguarded, blew a fast break my falling down.

    That sounds like he is cleary >>>>>>>>>> M. James.

    A team with Landry & Bonzi >>>>>> BJax
     
  2. el_locoteee

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    What????????????

    James can't play defense. We will be getting destroyed by Utah. James doesn't cut or fit the RA offense like Bjax. Bjax came to Houston fit the system (As a back up PG) and play, M. James came to Houston and sucks (With tons of opportunity)

    And Landry & Bonzi can't play together for long. Battier 40+ minutes (we need his defense and scoring at a high percentage) T-mac 40+ minutes (We need him to do anything) Landry and Scola (our only inside scoring options as well as our only true PF) Deke (we need his length) Hayes (The best Boozer defender and our best inside help defender)
    How many minutes can Bonzi play? 10 minutes a game?
    He will probably come in miss some defensive assignment, or do some bad rotation in defense, giving the jazz a lot of easy layups, then he will go to the hoops miss a layup or get foul (Thats what Utah does) and then miss the Fts.

    Bonzi impact vs Utah 2%
    Bonzi impact vs San Antonio 50%

    We are playing Utah no San Antonio.
     
  3. kwng

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    Still arguing. Quite a number of threads already on this topic already. It's already a history but put it this way. Assuming you ask all the GMs in the league and about who they want, BJackson or Wells and M.James. Try to guess the results.
     
  4. Darmonx

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    To the OP that's a good point to bring up. I now see what Rick Adelman's downfall is. I hope Les has seen this and fire him as soon as this series is over. RA puts loyalty to players even though they are way past their prime. We all can see how bad Bobby Jackson is but he can't! Although the younger Luther Head has missed open shots, he however has not been given as many chances as the older Bobby Jackson has.
     
  5. aaronnguyen

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    Bobby was awful last night he could not shoot straight. I think he is more effective go into the lane. But why we did not play Luther? I know he is always missing in the playoff but give the man a chance he could show up again before it too late.
     
  6. EbolaScola

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    If we still had Bonzi, Landry would not have gotten much playing time. BJax is inconsistent, but at least he has had some good games. Mike James had all of 0 good games.
     
  7. Nice Rollin

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    maybe in the offseason people will realize that this was a good trade
     
  8. J-Tang

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    i think Bonzi would've have been our legit third scorer this series as well as our second wing defender. He's a big body and he can play good one on one defense, I just don't know if his legs were fast enough to stop Deron Williams but he definitely could have bodied him up.
     
  9. el_locoteee

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    Because Luther can't play defense. if he is not shooting he is worthless.
     
  10. BoomShakalaka

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    You can't be serious, this must be a joke
     
  11. Seven

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    Figures we have Luther hate on a topic about Bobby Jackson and Bonzi Wells. You guys can't be that blind right? He's played almost no minutes this series because he missed open shots. NOT because he's playing no defense. NOT because he's turning the ball over, but because he MISSED SHOTS. If you show me an instance in this series where his defense is lacking then I'll believe you, but just saying it doesn't make it true.

    I also agree with clutch in the sense that his contract will be valuable this offseason; however, some of the players mentioned by everyone are unrealistic. I don't think we will get an allstar for his contract. The best case for us is getting a Mike Miller or Maggette with his contract. Head, Brooks, Novak or a couple of draft picks would probably have to go though. I don't think we can get Artest or Brand. Also, I have to say Bonzi has been pretty good for the Hornets.

    On Mike James being better than Bobby Jackson, Bobby is way more active than Mike and is a superior defender. Its not like Mike James cracked the rotation in New Orleans or anything. I know Jackson didn't play there either, but having Bobby here gives us more dept at the point guard spot.
    Before: Alston/Brooks/Luther/James
    After: Alston/Jackson/Brooks/Luther
     
  12. clutch citizen

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    Why not just go back further?

    It all started with the Barkley trade for Horry, Cassell, Bryant, and Brown.
     
  13. el_locoteee

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    He can't play defense vs the Utah Jazz, they are to physical for him. There is a reason he is not playing when almost everybody is shooting bad. Adelman realize that he is just in a bad match up vs the Jazz. He got time last year he got his time ( limited ) this year, and fail, vs Denver he will be playing 20+ minutes vs the Jazz he is better to watch the game from the bench.
     
  14. trochili

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    Michael James must go, it's still a good trade for long term.
     
  15. GoRedRowdies

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    This thread just really sucks.

    Please refrain from making similar ones. We all know BJ trade good.
     
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    I have been checking out the free agent market for this coming off season, and our interesting (realistic) prospects look like Ben Udrih, Jason Williams, Jamal Magloire, Michael Finley, maybe Boki Nachbar. I think either Udrih or Finley would upgrade this team a lot immediately (cut Luther Head to make room). I love Luther, but he's undersized, doesn't have the passing skills to play the point, and doesn't get to the rack consistently enough to be an adequate backup for Tracy. His defense is subpar, though he tries hard. We need players who can create their own shot and/or get excellent shots for others, but still hit spot up threes consistently.

    Obviously, help at PG is still a priority, and we aren't sure what Francis will have next year. Bobby Jackson's playoff performance (or lack thereof) probably eliminates him from serious contention for a spot next year. It has become evident that Rafer has to be on this team, and Aaron Brooks has shown flashes in the playoffs, but we still need another guy who can run the point.

    If I had to dream really big: Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, and even Gilbert Arenas all have early termination options on their contracts. Would either AI or Davis take less money ala Sam Cassell to come to a better contender than Denver or Golden State? Could Tmac's contract be reworked (if he wanted) if it meant he could get legitimate help at guard? Boston got really good really quickly when their stars agreed to take a little less money than they could have.
     
  17. W22_STREAK

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    I think the deal was for the future as well as for the current playoff's, but a lot of it was to dump Mike Jame's 6 Million contract and get an expiring $6 Million contract in return to use as trade chip this off season. I mean no team would want Mike James' useless contract that goes until 2010 right?
     
  18. Nelly

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    Didn't Pargo score almost 40 in game 3 on 70% shooting?
     
  19. rockets_fanatic

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    From what I've seen, Mike Jameis playing just as much or less than Bobby Jackson was for New Orleans. So I think they could be interchangable. So the best way to look at the trade is would you rather Bonzi Wells getting minutes, Carl Landry getting the minutes or them spliting minutes.
     

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