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Spotlight: Is Luther Done?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. HAYJON02

    HAYJON02 Member

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    Will FTW! Totally agree.

    It's not so much a matter of "giving up" on Luther though. That's pretty vague and reactionary. If giving up means he doesn't set foot on the court again this series, then I agree. The only way he sees PT is if every other player is shooting below 40%, but in that case we're down by 20 by then anyway.

    We saw last night the benefits of being physical back to a team that fouls a lot. I'm just glad we were able to hit our free throws when it counted. It's been strange turning into the Spurs from the line. I wouldn't mind turning into the Spurs from the rafters but that'll have to wait until next year.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    no he didn;t.

    how can you possibly back this up?

    his 3pt % has gone down and his turnovers per 48min have gone up!
     
  3. Da Wink

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    we need to trade him immediately in the offseason..either in the draft or in exchange for other bigger and useful veteran player
     
  4. Spacemoth

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    How about "Luther is clueless against the ____",

    where ____ = any NBA team and half the NCAA teams without Deron Williams to carry him.
     
  5. steddinotayto

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    Breaking down Luther Head:

    He can hit from outside and is our best 3pt shooter

    Sure he can hit from outside but he's been inconsistent. Maybe it's been the way Adelman's managing playing time but even Novak can get into a game, warm up, and knock down shots. Which leads to the "our best 3pt shooter" argument. There's no way he's our best 3pt shooter when you got Novak on the bench. Novak's technique/stroke is more consistent than Luther's (notice next time how Head tends to fade just a bit on his shot). Which leads to....

    He's still better than Novak with his all around game

    What all around game? His strength is in perimeter shooting. His dribbling skills is nonexistent, he can't penetrate to save his life, his passing skills works well for the opposing team, and his defense is on par with Novak's. Tack on the fact that whenever he enters the game, opposing teams immediately go to the guy Luther's guarding. Some might say "Utah's a bad matchup for Head because of their size"...?!?!? Everyone's a bad matchup for a 6-2 shooting guard. Of course I can't criticize for what God didn't give him but I'll criticize him on his defense. You'd think after spending two years under JVG and Tom Thibodeaux that Head would learn a thing or two about defense...but he hasn't. There are many times (even during the 22 game streak) where he didn't know which man to pick up or where to be in a defensive set. In other words, the brother looks lost.


    Well all we need to do is just get Luther open so he doesn't need to dribble and all he has to worry about is shoot


    This actually worked last year when JVG got Luther to run through screens to get open but this season there's been less of that. Maybe it's because of playing time or whatever, but Head doesn't get open. It's:

    1. Get the ball
    2. Hesitate
    3. Use the patented pump fake that no one outside of YMCA gym rats would bite on
    4. Hesitate some more
    5. Step back a couple of feet
    6. Launch

    If the Rockets ran plays where they would set screens for him to curl around then it would work. Unfortunately, Head's not one of the main options so he doesn't have that luxury of getting plays called for him.

    So what are we going to do with him?

    Give the minutes to either Brooks or Novak. Sure, both have their shortcomings but they also have strengths that help the team moreso than #2. Brooks, although small, can penetrate and get to the hoop. He can also handle the ball probably better drunk than Head can when he's 100% sober. Novak's defense is laughable but when he's open, that ball is going through the net. If Utah can utilize Kyle Korver--a player with suspect defense as well--why can't we utilize Novak?
     
  6. badgerfan

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    Sometimes guys have bad games. Sometimes guys have bad series.

    If the Rockets make it to the second round I think there's a good chance that Adelman will throw Head out against the Lakers/Nuggets winner, just to see how he does.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    Adelman has shown his willingness to try crazy lineups, so I bet he sees more time in this series.
     
  8. YallMean

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    Matter of fact is Brooks werent getting any more minutes either. I think RA is right both on Luther and Brooks.
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    Perhaps true, except I would not be surprised at all to see us move Jackson's expiring contract next year... and if we do, it may be smart to keep Luther around.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    Hopefully SF3 can fill the role of BJackson next year.
     
  11. EssTooKayTD

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    I really don't get where people think Luther has no driving ability. he's shown he does. It's his DECISION making that comes into question at least a couple times in a game. If he can learn to play smarter, he'll be more valuable.

    Luther has a nice set of skills and plays pretty decent on the ball defense. It really is his "DOH" plays that make us weary of him.
     
  12. ibm

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    agree.

    his dribbling isn't bad at all. you don't see him make a turnover on the dribble. most of his turnovers happen when he drives the ball and makes stupid decisions. i see that can be fixed.

    luther is relatively cheap. if he gets traded in a good package, i won't sweat. but to say he's done or useless outside of his shooting is just not right.
     
  13. girlnextdoor

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    steve francis should take luther head's spot next year :)
     
  14. el_locoteee

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    I love Luther, but we are to undersizes. he will be perfect to play in a team with a big PG or a team that doesn't care about defense.

    He have a lot of problems with bigger physical teams.

    He can play Adelman offense, he shoot, he can penetrate etc. but vs bigger teams he is just can't get it done.

    I bet if we where playing Denver, he would be playing great.

    The problem Houston need some size badly, and he need to be traded to a team that fits him better, he will always have a job in the NBA as long as he can shoot, but this Houston team needs a bigger back up for 2 and a 3.
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    but he cannot pass or make quick decision. This is the most vital to Adelman system.
     
  16. Thefabman

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    fool me once shame on you, fool me twice he needs to go

    1st postseason understandable
    2nd, your history
     
  17. kty

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    Wherever Luther may end up next season, if he wants to become a dependable shooter on a team, he has to be able to get himself free when he steps on the court, and also learn how to shoot the 3s with a quick release.
     
  18. ClutchCityReturns

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    He's durable, he's a good kid, and he shoots 3's well...but he can't dribble with any degree of pressure on him. Personally, I can't overlook that when talking about a PG/SG tweener.

    I'd like to see him as part of a package to get an impact player.
     
  19. Rockets4279

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    I think Luther will be packaged up and shipped out of here on draft day.
     
  20. cdastros

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    I think you give Luther another chance because brooks didn't look to effective in game 3. The win in game three might take the pressure off of the whole team and get Luther to not rush his shot so much.
     

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