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Fixing "Flop Problem" Suggestions

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by clutch citizen, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. clutch citizen

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    Since it's been reported that the NBA is trying to find a way to reduce flopping, I thought it would be interesting to see everyone's suggestions. It seems impossible to get rid of, but I think this would be a good way:

    Let's define a flop first. The flop is unnecesary acting from a player as if he were fouled. This is pulled from the imagination of the player hoping the ref will blow his/her whistle.

    After every game, have the refs review the tape and determine which plays were flops.

    The ones who committed flops should be assessed a 1-game suspension for the next game.

    After your first flop violation, the ones thereafter would warrant the 1-game suspension PLUS fines. The fine will increase with every violation you commit.

    I think this let's the refs call the games the way they have been. But it also deters players from flopping.

    Just my opinion. Feel free to add/criticize or let's see other suggestions
     
  2. DaDakota

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    I would do it like a Yellow Card in soccer, if you see it during the game give them a technical foul.

    And 2 and you are gone.

    DD
     
  3. eMat

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    What makes you think that the refs can tell the difference? They fall for them which means they thought there was legit contact. On the other hand, sometimes they let hard fouls go as no-calls which (possibly) means that they thought it was a flop. You could get killed and get a technical for it.

    I've been lamenting for what clutch citizen says for a long time. Maybe not to that extent though. Say, after the fifth flop you get a suspension. After that, after the third. Then after every flop. Then add fines. I suspect NBA players don't really care about fines but missing games would be a serious enough punishment to get rid of the flopping.

    The only issue with this that could arise is that some of the flops are 50/50 and there would be all kinds of fuss if a Ginobili got suspended for a playoff game for a questionable situation. But still, I haven't seen anyone propose anything better but you're all free to change my opinion.
     
  4. clutch citizen

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    Well, if Ginobili wants to keep playing, don't cheat. There HAS to be 0 tolerance for flopping. It's straight cheating. I'd assess the suspension to the flops that are made in hopes of fooling the ref.

    there are flops that are made to FOOL the ref, and there are flops that are made to SHOW the ref.

    Fooling the ref is just straight up acting like you got hit when you didn't. Kirilenko's flop was all acting. Like a ghost hit him. Baron Davis had one, too, against Okur earlier this season. That junk is cheating.

    Showing the ref is calling attention to the contact made. Battier flops, but he's in position. He falls back so the ref could see what happened.

    My point is, if you don't want to get suspended, then don't cheat. Play the game the way it's supposed to be played.
     
  5. KellyDwyer

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    Someone was given a "block" call for flopping in the Jazz/Rockets game yesterday, I don't know who it was. He was essentially punished for flopping, because there was no way that he blocked the guy. It was great to see, and the second-tier ref called it.
     
  6. clutch citizen

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    Right now, that's the only way the refs can deal with it. I don't think it's right, but there's no alternative.

    there's no way to determine what you can give the victim of a flopper, but there IS a way to punish the flopper. If you punish the flopper, he won't do it again.
     
  7. weslinder

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    Better refs.

    If floppers don't get calls, and they have to watch the play from the court, they'll quit flopping. As for technicals, how have yellow cards worked for soccer.
     
  8. bnb

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    Yellow cards have worked well in reducing diving. The 'diving' penalty in hockey also works well. Ref's need something other then just not calling foul. There's no downside to the flopper.
     
  9. rrj_gamz

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    There is no way you can fix it, especially after the BS AK pulled last night...

    No way that call should have been made...
     
  10. doublebogey

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    You guys are so out-dated and still call Ginobili the king flopper.

    Ginobili only ranked #31 in taking charges in last season. And Phoenix was the best flopping team or the leading team in taking charges in last season.


     
  11. clutch citizen

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    It's just impossible to tell a flop during a game. The refs are human.

    That's why I think flops should be reviewed on tape after the game. The league has turned soft with the new rules and flopping. I think reviewing the game tape to assess flopping is the way to go. Set up a committee for review and have them determine the 1-game suspensions. Once you have those deterents in place, players would probably not even try it anymore.
     
  12. Ziggy

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    But they understand that certain players flop like its their job. So make a note and stop giving them calls. What if they really are fouled? Boy Cries Wolf scenario, his punishment is lack of trust and calls. The refs could easily quell this situation.
     
  13. Easy

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    You stole my idea. ;)
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=3626464&postcount=4
     

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