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Offseason 2008: What do the Rockets do?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. roflmcwaffles

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    Man if we can get Bdiddy for Tmac that would be a FUN trade :D.
     
  2. Zfan

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    I would do everything to obtain Ron Artest.
    This team is talent but unfortunately labelled as "soft" for years. Even a tough coach called JVG couldn't change it.
    The historical 22 is not only a number. It proves that they are ready to contend. So, what's the reason they have no answer for the JaXXholes?? When Rockets meet a physical and dirty team, they look very soft. They are too clean that just like five gentlemen with citizen award playing a friendly match.
    Going for Artest is a shortcut to erase the "soft" tag. Not any badass or bulldogs, but Artest. This crazy guy may have mental problems, but he's going to change the team. He will answer every elbow. He will not let the others beat him physically. He's what Rockets exactly need.
     
  3. H-townhero

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    Wade in a Rockets jersey? This is probably the most far fetched trade possibility I've seen thus far on these boards. Lol.
     
  4. Rockets4279

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    Its not far fetched at all. Wade will go to the team that can win it the most today not 5 years down the road when he becomes a 11 year vet. If he was to be traded then now is the time he would be traded. Miami has NO SHOT to win the ring in the next 5 years rebuilding matters and or when his contract expires. If you was Wade where would you go?
     
  5. H-townhero

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    No where, I think I'd hang out on the beaches of Miami for my entire career. Seriously though next year they will probably get Beasley or Rose and still have Marion. It's not like their team will be complete crap or anything. They could easily make the playoffs in a majority crap eastern conference.

    If they shell off Marion and Wade they'd be dealing with an NBDL team and a lottery pick... doubt they'd do that 2 seasons in a row.
     
  6. T.Mcgrady

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    Lock McGrady in a gym with Kobe Bryant?
     
  7. Rockets4279

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    if Wade stayes and Marion has already indicated he is opting out then he will be doing it again anyways.
     
  8. Rockets4279

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    They are better off taking on Battier/Alston/Head if you ask me. Marion isnt staying and Beasley is not enough to make the playoffs again. What does he do?? Alston goes back to Miami i believe. Wade is better off in Houston.
     
  9. H-townhero

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    Huh? Where are you reading this?

    Shawn Marion played about as well as the Heat could have expected before his recent back spasms, but their relationship will be tested this summer.

    Though Marion and agent Dan Fegan aren't ready to discuss their intentions, this much is clear: Marion would like to clarify his future this summer and is expected to ask the Heat for an extension beyond the remaining year on his contract. But it's difficult to envision the Heat making that commitment.

    Marion likely will not opt out of his contract's final year (worth $17.4 million), because he won't get comparable money on the open market. If the Heat shows interest in an extension, opting out would allow him to re-sign for six years -- otherwise, an extension would be limited to three years (before June 30) or four (after June 30) under league rules. But that's highly unlikely.


    http://www.miamiherald.com/594/story/470439.html
     
  10. Rockets4279

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    I was told differently so much for Mr Wade. There still not going to go anywhere.
     
  11. H-townhero

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    Even if we could get him dunno if I'd want him. He is a type of player that will require the ball in his hands alot like T-mac. You can't really have 2 of that type of player on a team unless one is a bench player.

    I'd also like to mention that Dwayne Wade is pretty injury prone, something I'd rather not have more of on the team. As for them going nowhere... I could see them going to the playoffs in EC np next year if they get a semi decent bench this summer and their draft pick pans out.
     
  12. doublebogey

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    Houston is the most offensively challenged team Adelman has ever coached. All Adelman's teams had never ranked below 15th in offensive rating except the Houston Rockets, which are ranked 17th in offensive rating. This is obviously the result of a collection of offensively challenged players.

    I think Adelman/Morey certainly will want to to address 3 things if possible:

    1. Shootings: Rockets' Gs & SFs shoot from 40% to 43.2% except Novak. When the Rockets call Luther Head our best shooter at 43.2%, the Rockets have problems. Rockets' PFs & Cs barely finishes above 50% except Landry. Both Scola and Hayes miss layups after layups. Man, Houston is a team that cant finish layups and open shots in a amazing rate. This team's FG% is 44.8% and ranked at #20.

    2. Size and athleticism: The Rockets have only one player plays above the rim and that says it all. The 2nd unit of the Rockets always have a 6'9 guy as their C. Our backup 2 G is Luther Head who's 6'3. So, a big backup C and big backup 2 are needed. I prefer a younger C than having Deke back.

    3. Upgrade in PG: The Rockets cant have 2 backup PGs and think they solve the problem. The search must go on for the well documented PG problem.

    Players I will keep: Yao, T-Mac, Battier, Scola, Landry, Hayes, & Brooks

    Players I will let go if there are better options: Harris, Novak, Deke, & Woods

    The Rockets dont need 5 small 6'3 or below guards: 2 must go from Head, Francis, Jackson and Alston and replace by a big backup 2 and a starter PG (if possible).
     
  13. Rockets4279

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    Huh what you mean Wade is another playmaker that is what matters most. Having the ball in his hands so what he is a superstar that is his job i thought. I would take him over anyone on our roster that has the ability to set up playes create playes and get to the free throw line.
     
  14. H-townhero

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    Better at creating plays than T-Mac? Hell no. McGrady can get people open if they move even just a little. If you watch the offense of the Rockets he's having trouble doing this because none of them are cutting or even attempting to cut or move around to get open the majority of the time. If you are open 99% of the time McGrady will find you. I have NOT seen Dwayne Wade do this. This poor offensive execution has nothing to do with McGrady.

    Better at getting to the FT line than T-Mac? Yes, this is about the only thing that excels him to superstar status anyways. His shooting is decent, he's excellent at driving to basket, his FT% is lower than I'd like for a PG or SG (then again T-Macs %s suck too).

    It's a pipe dream to have them together but I still don't think they'd mesh. If we somehow got them both we'd just have to see though.
     
  15. Rockets4279

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    Where did i mention McGrady? Im not even talking about this game what is fact is Wade has found the open man more than McGrady does the stat lines lie since you bring this up anyways?
     
  16. Rockets4279

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    NM they would mesh just fine trust me. What im saying by this is how many times do superstars never mesh well together?

    Also what im saying is they would make the game easier for each other as well as take pressure off each other this is why they would mesh.
     
  17. H-townhero

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    A lot of times actually, see how many finals Clyde, Hakeem, & Barkley reached? Zero. I'm sure there are plenty of other times throughout NBA history you could find 3 stars who didn't work well together. IMO Hakeem and Barkleys game were too close to each other causing problems. Much the same could be said of Wade and T-Mac. I just don't see how it'd work. If we had a 3rd star I'd like him to be a superb shooter who plays defense like Ray Allen but players like him are really hard to find, and don't kid yourself T-Mac is not as good of a shooter as Allen. He can shoot lights out some games but Allen is much more consistent. T-Mac is a penetrator-kick type player just like Wade. If they both on the same team it does nothing but clog up the paint because they know they won't be making a lot of their jumpers.

    It's working in Boston this year because each of their stars have significantly different games. Garnet is a post up guy, Pierce and drive and shoot occasional 3s when hes hot, Allen is a pure shooter.
     
  18. Rookie34

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    I would pull the trigger :eek: ... but i don't know the bobcats will? :rolleyes:
     
  19. Rockets4279

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    It would work because picture it this way. Put the ball in Wade's hands instead of Alston.

    Wade would have i think shut down Williams tonight.

    Also look at how close the game was with a back court playing better.

    Wade is clearly better than Alston, Jackson, Brooks.


    Finishing around the rim? Wade

    Game on the line? Wade over those 3.

    They would mesh fact they would be the best back court in the game today.

    Wade would elevate his game just in this offense the ability to find cutter, attack and finish in traffic clear cut advantage Wade.

    Shooting 3 pointers advantage Wade only because he dont do much of it.
     
  20. Rockets4279

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    See it this way. Clyde, Barkley, Hakeem only had how many attempts to win a ring? Once, look at how far in the playoffs they went though.

    Those 3 there did mesh just because they didnt win a ring dont be fooled now.
     

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