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Chinese Internet Mob Threatens 18-year old Chinese Student acting as Peacemaker

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Apr 17, 2008.

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SamFisher said:

Trying to stimulate dialogue between two warring sides = peacemaker.
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I don't care to join in this argument, but I find this pretty funny.

It's obvious that the "dialogue" between any two opposite sides on this forum(and any other media) has been VERY productive. After all, there has been a long history of people holding opposite extremist views sitting down, having a nice chat, and settle their differences rationally, and peacefully.

#41 meh, Apr 17, 2008

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DaRock1 said:

Sam, I don't think you get what Macfu wants to say. Believe it or not, people go to internet with different agendas and you might never know who a poster really is, what the real nationality of a poster is and what the real intention of the poster is. Even if that person can write in Chinese and could also successfully make a few posts in a Chinese message board, I think your decision process is too simplified to come to the conclusion that he must be a Chinese. Just because the poster wants you to believe that he is Chinese does not automatically means he is really a Chinese. The chance that he is a non-Chinese who made posts like that to make the Chinese people look bad is at least as big as the chance that he is really a Chinese. Now his posts are being reported by the media around the world and drawing that much attention all over the world. I have to say he is very successful if that is his real purpose. At least he could make you believe that he is a Chinese without a doubt, correct? I think we all need to be more critical to review what we read on the internet. We need to learn not to just receive the information that other people want to feed us with like a robot, Sam.
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uh... no.

#42 LScolaDominates, Apr 18, 2008
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You've just put this whole entire board in danger.

#43 CharlieMurphy, Apr 18, 2008
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Can we get some Chinese Internet Mob to come over here and check the background info of SamFisher?

#44 Matchman, Apr 18, 2008
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Grace 's Response:

I admire your courage to reply in such a candide way. When I wrote the letter to everyone, I never thought about you so I was surprised by what you said about Chinese community. You have made a very fast judgment on me and also an unfair generalization about Chinese community. As far as I can see, you like to make fun of Chinese people and see yourself superior than Chinese (maybe only those who are more Chinese than you are?) Candidate, I have faith in Chinese community here and everywhere. I also believe that people have the ability to tell right from wrong. Apparently some people have eagerly spread the rumor to as many people as possible. I can tell you that all of the stories you heard from me are true. I am also very happy to see how much interest you showed to my and others' life. If you want to know something about my personal life as you have shown apparent interest, I can tell you very candidly whatever is appropriate to tell. I am from Qingdao, which is a fact that I have never ever hide. I have also organized an important political protest in Beijing. The political science professor Tianjian Shi at Duke and a Chinese student (Class 11 from Beijing) called Ruochen Zhu can attest what I've said. I can also tell you that that protest had something to do with Duke university political science department and I communicated with president Brodhead and got replies from the then political science departement acting chair Michael A Gillespie and Vice Provost for International Affairs Gilbert Merkx.

If I feel a little intimidated, I wouldn't even try to write this email or to stay here. I told the story because my past shows who I am today and I am still bothered by a lot of the experiences. I also want people to be aware of the political status quo in China and feel a need to care. I have been through a lot more than you can ever imagine and it is not easy to handle by myself. You don't need to worry about how do I or others think about you. It is what you think of you and what you do that matters. I have said I have chosen to forget about everything everyone did. I hope this is the end of your game.

Best,

Grace
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Interesting, so she organized a protest in Beijing with the help of Duke's poli sci department? (Or was she protesting Duke's poli sci department in Beijing? But this doesn't make sense) Also, what makes this protest so important?

Was this really written by her? If so, I think she might have some issues....

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She sounds awesome, I would date her.

#46 SamFisher, Apr 18, 2008
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SamFisher said:

She sounds awesome, I would date her.
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I hope you like your girls without eyebrows. It was said in one of the blog posts that the one person posted, and my friend at Duke confirmed it hahaha.

#47 Nuclear Yak, Apr 18, 2008

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I hope you like your girls without eyebrows. It was said in one of the blog posts that the one person posted, and my friend at Duke confirmed it hahaha.
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probably a vicious CIM rumour.

#48 SamFisher, Apr 18, 2008
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SamFisher said:

probably a vicious CIM rumour.
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Personally I thought so too. My friend who goes to Duke and lives in Brown confirmed it though, so I dont even know what to think anymore

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SAMFISHER,you post has a number of inaccuracies.

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A lot of posters on this forum seemed to be bragging about the internet terrorism unleashed by angry chinese online mobs and sending people threatening emails and harassing phone calls over in the other threads

- I personally don't find it anything to be bragging about. Ugly reprehensible behavior by chinese nationalists here.
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DaRock1 said:

Sam, I don't think you get what Macfu wants to say. Believe it or not, people go to internet with different agendas and you might never know who a poster really is, what the real nationality of a poster is and what the real intention of the poster is. Even if that person can write in Chinese and could also successfully make a few posts in a Chinese message board, I think your decision process is too simplified to come to the conclusion that he must be a Chinese. Just because the poster wants you to believe that he is Chinese does not automatically means he is really a Chinese. The chance that he is a non-Chinese who made posts like that to make the Chinese people look bad is at least as big as the chance that he is really a Chinese. Now his posts are being reported by the media around the world and drawing that much attention all over the world. I have to say he is very successful if that is his real purpose. At least he could make you believe that he is a Chinese without a doubt, correct? I think we all need to be more critical to review what we read on the internet. We need to learn not to just receive the information that other people want to feed us with like a robot, Sam.
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Thank you. You said it much better than I did. This so-called "Chinese Internet Mob" can also well be called:

"They-want-you-to-believe-that-they-are-Chinese Internet mob".

I don't deny tricks like this can sometimes deceive the simple-minded people.

#51 MacFu, Apr 18, 2008
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SAMFISHER,you post has a number of inaccuracies.
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OLLIEZ no it does not.

#52 SamFisher, Apr 18, 2008
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Thank you. You said it much better than I did. This so-called "Chinese Internet Mob" can also well be called:

"They-want-you-to-believe-that-they-are-Chinese Internet mob".

I don't deny tricks like this can sometimes deceive the simple-minded people.
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^ LOL yes I am sure there is a cadre of fluent Chinese reading and writing non-Chinese disinformation specialists out on the interwebz - forming a sinister plot to defame the good name of Chinese Internet Mobs by flooding CIM message boards in informational warfare.

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SamFisher said:

^ LOL yes I am sure there is a cadre of fluent Chinese reading and writing non-Chinese disinformation specialists out on the interwebz - forming a sinister plot to defame the good name of Chinese Internet Mobs by flooding CIM message boards in informational warfare.
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How fluent were they? Can you explain? What type of Chinese language did they use? And how elegant the style of writing do they have? You seem to have done a lot of research on this. So I am waiting for you to enlighten me.

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SamFisher said:

She sounds awesome, I would date her.
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She likes virgins, are you game ?

#55 olliez, Apr 18, 2008
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How fluent were they? Can you explain? What type of Chinese language did they use? And how elegant the style of writing do they have? You seem to have done a lot of research on this. So I am waiting for you to enlighten me.
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Since you are propounding the conspiracy theory - you enlighten me ok Inspector C. Lu Zhou?

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SamFisher said:

Since you are propounding the conspiracy theory - you enlighten me ok Inspector C. Lu Zhou?
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Conspiracy theory or whatever you called it, me and another poster have elaborated on our thoughts. Now it's on you to explain how fluent in Chinese writing they are. And how elegant their writing style is so they deserve to be called specialists by you?

Also, have you just called those CIM boards only because a few unknown people made hated posts there to fool you? You don't seem to really use your brain before you throw out this CIM label.

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MacFu said:

Conspiracy theory or whatever you called it, me and another poster have elaborated on our thoughts. Now it's on you to explain how fluent in Chinese writing they are. And how elegant their writing style is so they deserve to be called specialists by you?

Also, have you just called those CIM boards only because a few unknown people made hated posts there to fool you? You don't seem to really use your brain before you throw out this CIM label.
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it's not on me, because your thoughts are ludicrous. The CIM phenomenon is indeed real, as attested to by posters on this thread. You need to provide some evidence of a global disinformation conspiracy rather than simply suggesting that one might exist.

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SamFisher said:

it's not on me, because your thoughts are ludicrous. The CIM phenomenon is indeed real, as attested to by posters on this thread. You need to provide some evidence of a global disinformation conspiracy rather than simply suggesting that one might exist.
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More ludicrous that your wild imagination that they are specialists in writing fluent Chinese?

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It is funny that Western people asking human rights for Chinese everyday, but once most Chinese speak from their heart, they call them brainwashed mob.

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