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Frontline's Sick around the world

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, Apr 15, 2008.

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  1. lpbman

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    Can I move to Germany and become an implant specialist?
     
  2. Commodore

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    I am amazed that people would consent to allowing their hard earned money go to pay for other people's heathcare indiscriminately.

    If someone wants me to help pay for their health care, they can persuade me. But authorizing the state to take my wealth for their benefit, without my having a say in the matter, is repulsive.
     
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    most docs could pay off their loans after ~2-3 yrs if they really payback their loans fast.

    youre correct, most med students dont go to med school for profit (those that do have a lot of ambition or quit before graduation). but no matter how much a student wants to help sick people, theres the burn out factor. how long do you think someone can work 12-16 hrs/day and watch other people w/ less schooling/training make more money and work less hours?
     
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    yes universal health care makes medicine cheap but if youre forced to pay ~$750 every month (even when you dont visit the doc or just go in for a checkup) then doesnt it equal out in the end?
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    Good question. First, I'd want to be in the situation where healthcare is at 10% of GDP and then talk about the interests of doctors who are living decent lives. Those hospital doctors today aren't blind to implant specialists, fat removers, pill pushers and fat reorientors making 2-5 times more money with possibly less/same training. Yet they still chug on.

    In a sense, I'm surprised only German healthcare workers were reported to be upset. Even then, the narrator said it was business as usual after the protests.

    It sounds like part of the problem is increased demand. But removing economics out of the issue, doesn't those patients who wouldn't have had healthcare deserve it anyway?

    Finally, I think overworked doctors are a major issue in all systems. Is the carrot driving our system the belief that you work 10-15 hours now, and get a promotion 3-5 years down the line? That's pretty harsh and cynical for those people sworn to protect our lives.

    Every month? Isn't that worse the current system we have now?

    If nationalized healthcare doesn't drive down costs in relation to GDP, then I'd be against it as well. But with the program as reference, it'd be on the lack of trying and will should that happen.
     
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    This not true I would have no problem with a doctor from India (Most of them are pretty good) and probably china ( I have no experience with them). Those doctors know their stuff. I haven't been to a doctor in like 6 years, but that is because it always takes two weeks to get an appointment. By then I am fine.
     
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    Most interesting thing I've seen about medicine recently:

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    im not sure which country it was (i think it was germany). and yes, everyone paid ~$750 every month no matter if you went to see the doctor 20 times or you didnt see the doctor at all.

    man that would be nearly half my monthly pay. thats freakin insane. im a pretty healthy person so i dont see the point in paying ~$750 a month if i go see the doc maybe once a year.
     
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    im sure india and china produce fine docs.

    you had mentioned that the US should drop their laws about allowing foreign doctors to immigrate and practice in the US. so basically they dont have to get relicensed over here (they dont have to retake board exams to test whether they really know their stuff). well if this is the case, then id be more worried about docs from countires whose professional standards are set much much lower than ours.
     

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