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[CHRON] McGrady: Rockets' success hinges on team, not him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TeamUSA, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. pmac

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    Yep, if you're building an offense that depends on 1 player you're not building a successful offense.

    As far as the original post, maybe you were being sarcastic, but it sounded like you were downing him for saying the success hinges on the team. Would that mean you believe in the 'it's on me' mantra.
     
  2. TeamUSA

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    The only thing we expect from Tmac is to play smart team basketball. His pull up jumper has not won any series.

    Even if we're leading by 20, we should stick to the game plan.
     
  3. ShadyMcGrady

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    Fair enough. Although I expect more than that from T-Mac since it's playoff time. Hope I'm not wrong in doing so.
     
  4. Surfguy

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    If Tmac shoots low 30 percentile FG %, then the Rockets will lose no matter what IMO. I think we need Tmac shooting at 44% or better to have a shot. But, we obviously still need the rest of the team to step up and play/shoot well. If we get another one of these playoff series where it's Tmac trying to create and the rest of the team is being taken out of it by the opposing defense to the point where the offense isn't in motion and everyone is sort of standing around waiting on something to materialize, then this series is going to suck hard and no doubt we will be on the losing end.
     
  5. Deckard

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    I trust Adelman to come up with the game plans to give us a chance to win in the playoffs, but unless Tracy attacks the rim, and everyone else (that is playing... and who knows??) plays within the offense and makes their shots, we're going to be up against it to advance. I'm not worried about our defense. I'm more worried about who is going to be able to suit up.
     
  6. emjohn

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    I'm with those that aren't thrilled with these comments and take them as built in excuses. McGrady's maybe the only star I can think of that actively looks for ways to shrink away. We can't win without him attacking the rim, yet he will take a 20+ jumper over a drive 9 times out of 10. I don't think anyone is excited by 20 pt Scola games as much as he is.

    Maybe it's time to look at McGrady as a talented secondary player - but it strikes me that he doesn't want to be a star that leads.

    I had no problem with his "It's on me" line last year, but a big one in his failure to live up to it after Game 2 and especially in the 4th quarter of Game 7. Before people come in enraged and cite his numbers, best include that his shooting % dropped like a rock, especially his 3s (33% to 25%). Points from volume shooting aren't as valuable. Granted - the entire squad stunk up Utah in Games 3 and 4. Worst games I can remember.

    Bit ironic that last year, with a full healthy squad it was "It's on me" and this year, missing Yao (and Rafer) "it's about team"

    Evan
     
  7. poprocks

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    Thank you!!
     
  8. TeamUSA

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    I've always believed in team play. should always be the case. What I want from Tmac is to SHUT UP. If he's shooting over 20 shots a game and miss over 70% , he has NO RIGHT TO SAY WHAT HE JUST SAID. He should have said and done that in the beginning of the season, not at the start of the playoff.

    IF he makes less shots and pass more, we win more.
     
  9. Seth

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    I think that is a good thing actually, McGrady realizing this can also free some pressure off his shots and make them start falling, i hope this translate into the game and T-Mac surprising us all completely buying into Adelman´s offense.
     
  10. TeamUSA

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    Maybe he should be wearing NIKE shoes, JUst do it! ;)
     
  11. jgreen91

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    Here is my biggest thing....

    I'm completely OK with Tmac playing team ball and letting his teammates do the work along with him. BUT if the game is close at the end, I want him handling the ball and taking the shots. IMO, that is what makes someone as superstar. You play within yourself, get your teammates involved and then CLOSE OUT THE GAME yourself. Like Jordan.

    Game 7 of the Utah series last year is a prime example. They kept going down to Yao in the clutch, and kept playing team ball in the clutch. Most people melt down in those moments - but superstars do not. Yao was nervous, the whole team was nervous - Tmac should have just taken over.

    Like he did in the first two games of the Dallas series two years ago. TMAC CLOSED THOSE GAMES OUT HIMSELF. Then he went passive again and in game 6 at home, we have freakin' Bobby Sura throwing up one handed floaters during clutch time. I was at that game and considered jumping off the 2nd deck of the toyota center and just ending it right there. I could not understand why Tmac wasn't closing out that game like he did in the first two. I'm angry right now just thinking about it. Bobby Sura? Floaters? :mad:
     
  12. rocketsregle

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    Wow. We're in the third week of April and one game from the regular season ending and you still feel that he hasn't completely bought into Adelman's offense?
     
  13. emjohn

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    You actually think he has? What part of a motion offense calls for a stutter step at the perimeter and jacking up 24 footers?

    Evan
     
  14. PigMiller

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    I'm with you here. I've said all along that somehow (knowingly or subconsciously), he manages to put himself in to a position where he has a built in excuse, or some sort of out for himself. This is no different. His shoulder is no different either (again, knowingly or subconsciously).

    At least we can't get labeled as ***'s at the moment for saying this.
     
  15. rocketsregle

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    That comes with the package of having Tracy McGrady. It's who he is. When someone feels the pressure or is experiencing the other plane of the spectrum, they always fall back to the bad habits. For Tracy it is taking a jumpshot from 24 feet out. For Francis it was dancing with the ball at the top of the key.

    But for the most part, I think he's integrated himself into the Adelman's offense given the circumstances. Remember Yao is a big part of the offense. Scola or Landry cant' replace that for McGrady.
     
  16. leebigez

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    I didn't have a problem with "its on me" talk last yr. The truth of it is, no matter what he did, everyone would blame him for failure to advance in the playoffs. Think about it, no one ever brings up the fact that Yao is 0-3 in the playoffs. No matter what happens, the national media views the rox failure straight back to tracy, yet people want to say its Yao's team. Reality is what it is, tracy can't ever win until he wins a ring. Garnett always had his lack of support excuse as is Kobe who hasn't been out the 1st rd without shaq.
     
  17. TeamUSA

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    Cuz Yao says no $h:t?

    It's on Leon Woods this time. :p
     
  18. pippendagimp

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    You need to familiarize yourself with the Houston Rockets roster. Clutchfans is no joke - get w/ the program here amigo :)
     
  19. yyaass

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    I think game 6 was one of tmac's best games as a rocket seriously he was really clutch he hit 2 big 3's in the 4th , and john barry was really big.
     
  20. McGradySNKT

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    All some of you do is complain about the team no matter what.

    Even with Yao out the team went on yet another run and people are slamming Tmac before the playoffs start.

    Its like a tired female who can't be happy without some dude dogging her out every other day because she doesnt know what its like to be treated right.

    Who cares if tmac says he's leading or its a collective effort, it doesnt change the fact that if the team doesnt step up they'll be playoff fodder, which they probably are no matter what McGrady does.


    Time to get better players in here besides D leaguers like Chuck Hayes getting big minutes and add guys who can drive instead of chucking up Jumpers waiting for one guy to create the shot for them.

    If your teams dreams hangs on guys like Rafer and Chuck Hayes you're already screwed, i dont care if Moses Malone was here.
     

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