This is right from chron.com. This is what i expected "If the Hornets beat the Clippers tonight and the Rockets beat the Clippers on Wednesday, the Rockets will start the playoffs against the loser of Wednesday's Jazz-Spurs game, on the road in San Antonio or at home against the Jazz. The exception to that could be a four-way tie involving the Rockets, Jazz, Spurs and Suns, with the Rockets then playing the Suns in the playoffs."
Looks like ScriboErgoSum is going to have to e-mail Feigen and educate him on how the seedings are done.
Let's not think about that. That would be certain death for us. We can only hold off the bigs for so long.
I'm actually about to do that. I tell you I'm going to start charging news services next season to break down the seedings for them. But hopefully Stern will blow the seeding system, which clearly doesn't work. I'm still bummed that we didn't get the Rockets-Hornets-Lakers scenario. That would have made the NBA change things up.
I submitted a comment to his blog (which he screens). Hopefully if you, me, Kim and others who have studied at the S.E.S. School of Playoff Seeding e-mail him, he'll get the hint.
Me too! Just left a comment on the blog. I feel so proud. It's like watching your kids grow up. I don't even have to break these down anymore. You, Kim, and the gang know the drill!
Is that true? I guess we have to look up to set 4 teams to first four. That is Lakers,Hornets,Jazz and X. To determine X we have a 3 team breaker to set suns on it . That should be the procedure.
Read a few more posts, looks like we're going to play the Jazz no matter what if it ends up how others are saying. I was reading the official rules, but apparently there is a top 4 team and bottom 4 team division rule that isn't with the official ones... we'll just have to wait and see!
Why do you keep writing things like that? http://www.nba.com/news/rulechanges_060802.html There. That's from the NBA's website...it's not an opinion piece, not 2nd hand info from a writer. Top 4 teams will be seeded in order of regular season record. That's 3 division winners plus the next best record overall. If Houston, Utah, San Antonio and Phoenix all have 55 wins, then just forget about Utah b/c they're already top 4. You take the other 3 and you have to pick 1 to get into the top 4 (which would be Phoenix because they have the tie breaker which is best record among the 3way tie of Houston, San Antonio and Phoenix). So there would be your 4: Lakers, Jazz, Hornets, and Suns. Those 4 would be seeded in order of regular season record. The Lakers would be 1st with the best record. Hornets would be 2nd with the 2nd best record. Jazz and Suns would have the same record at 55 wins, so it would then go to a 2 team tie breaker, meaning the Jazz would be 3rd (b/c Jazz won season series 2-1) and Suns would be 4th. That leaves 5-8, with the Rockets and Spurs both having the same record. Spurs would be 5th b/c they would have a better conference record. If I am wrong I will praise you as more NBA knowledgeable than I in my sig. If you continue to keep raising doubt about me, Scribo, and Cannonball, I friendly challenge you to the same thing...something like: I am a fool to ever think I know more about the NBA than the great H-townhero/Kim You don't have to make this deal, but it just seems right if you continue to cast false doubt on the truth.
Look, at this point I agree with you. However in the official tie-break rules CURRENTLY POSTED on their website I see nothing of the sort, that' just an out of date article from 2 years ago. We'll just have to see what happens and settle it then. Nothing to get bent out of shape over.
You are correct. Those are the "tie-break rules". You just have to take into account the order of operations. 1) Division winners get auto top 4 seed 2) best record of non division winner gets a top 4 seed 3) 1-4 seeded by record (this is where you can use tie-break rules) therefor 5-8 seeded by record (and you can also use tie-break rules), but there's no overlap...1-4 is 1-4 and 5-8 is 5-8. The tie-break rules are accurate, but there is no 4 team tie break to apply because you have to go by order of operations. If you don't follow the order of operations, then you could potentially have a division winner not seeded in the top 4.
Please show me something from their rulebook that says this and I'll drop all doubts, because I'm looking and not seeing it. That article doesn't cut it.
I'm not posting articles by local writers who have opinions. These are official news releases by the NBA. And there is not an online section to playoff seedings in the NBA rule book. http://www.nba.com/features/seedingprimer07.html Playoff Seeding Primer Posted Apr 2 2007 2:36PM SECAUCUS, NJ, April 2, 2007 -- Confused by the new playoff seeding format? Were you confused by the old format? Last season, much ado was made about the Spurs and Mavs, the teams with the two best records in the Western Conference, meeting in the Conference Semifinals because of the rule that gave the top three seeds to the division winners. So, during the offseason, that rule was changed so that the two best teams in the conference would not face each other until the Conference Finals, even if they're in the same division. As the regular season wraps up and some teams clinch playoff berths while others are eliminated, here's everything you need to know about how the playoff brackets are laid out. 2007 Nifty Numbers The top four seeds will be the three division winners plus the team with the next best record. Those four will be ordered by record (and tiebreakers if needed), so it's possible that two teams in the same division could hold the top two spots, with the other two division winners at Nos. 3 and 4. Seeds 5 through 8 are the next four teams according to record (and tiebreakers if needed). First Round matchups are as follows: 1 vs. 8 4 vs. 5 2 vs. 7 3 vs. 6 Conference Semifinals matchups are as follows: 1-8 Winner vs. 4-5 Winner 2-7 Winner vs. 3-6 Winner Homecourt advantage for any series is determined by record, not seed. So, it's possible that the 5 seed could have homecourt advantage over the 4, or that the 6 seed could have homecourt advantage over the 3. Tiebreakers (1) Head-to-head (2) Division record (if the teams are in the same division) (3) Conference record (4) Record vs. Playoff teams, own conference (5) Record vs. Playoff teams, other conference (6) Net points, all games
Personally, I'd rather the Rox draw San ANtonio. As good and champ-quality that they are, they're had a lazy sluggish season, and they go through scoring droughts like madness, plus, they're beatable at home. The Jazz just have too many weapons on offense, they've got a lot of young bench guys who can get it done, and Boozer/Okur/Williams/Harpring just salivate at the sight of a Rockets jersey - they really seem to have our number. That Salt Lake City atmosphere is oppressive in every way. I just think we have a better chance against a like-minded Defensive team that goes through scoring droughts. Their big men ain't thaaat big. Might as well beat the best if you're going to get out of the 1st round.
my list of orders between san antonio 1. hca with utah (can't have hca with spurs, correct?) 2. no hca with spurs 3. no hca with utah.
I have to admit I don't understand all the tie break rules and am not going to weigh in on who or where we might play in the first round but I am pissed that our chance for homecourt is dependent on what the Spurs do.
Guys Here is the link to the 2007-08 NBA Rule Book in pdf form: www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2007-08.pdf
