Princess isn't the only female with that opinion. Most of my friends are women, and a good deal of them feel the same way. They feel women have the innate desire to compete with eachother, and that friendships between women very often are less pure somehow. Maybe because a lack of honesty and forthcoming nature is there, I don't know. But Princess certainly isn't alone in that view. In fact, most of my female friends lack close friendships with other women. There are exceptions, but that's just it. They're exceptions. It's often puzzled me. I'm speaking from a completely objective point of view. I have friends I would die for. I don't know too many women that feel the same way about their female friends. Maybe you're different, Mrs. JB. If so, great. That's awesome. But I would hesitate in reacting towards Princess as if she were the only woman to hold that point of view. Because I can tell you right now, that's not the case. Not by a long shot.
Gascon -- I'm not trying to pick on Princess and I'm sure she appreciates you standing up for her. I understand that there are women out there who view other women as competition. But she used the phrase "girls are backstabbing and evil" and this struck me as a rather broad and harsh generalization. This may, however, be a product of an age gap too. I'm not sure how old your female friends are, but I know Princess is 20. I seem to remember being more competitive with other females when I was that age too. Maybe as women get older there is less need to compete and more need to connect.
MOST: Intelligence. Creativity. Sense of humor. LEAST: Procrastination. Selling myself short. Divided ambitions and loyalties: part of procrastination: my parents divorced when I was three and growing up is tough when each family (one in TX, one in IA) seems to want me where they are (not to mention my Japanese fiancee: something's got to give, folks).
Possibly a very good, prudent point. Most of my friends, not all of them but most of them, are in their mid-twenties and younger. You may be on to something. I wasn't necessarily trying to come to anyone's aid, really. I just thought I'd throw a little weight on the other side of the scale, since my experience happened to jive with what Princess was saying. Maybe that's the same thing, I don't know. If I was, I was probably reacting in main to ice pack's post, which seemed a little unnecessary.
Likes My intelligence Im 6'2" Background ability to talk to girls [/list=1] Dislikes Im ugly I hate myself [/list=1]
Best I'm a perfectionist. Worst I'm a perfectionist. I got it bad. If I don't win every arguement, if I don't say or do something right the first time, man it bothers me - I really hate to fail, but I also take pride in the fact I place my bar so high. I feel it helps me try my best. I guess that's why my dream is to write a novel. I can think, put the page down, revisit it later, revise, move on - all without anyone knowing what a poor thinker I really am!
Why, why, why ... I saw that the same time you did! I fixed it and boom here it comes!!!!!!! Dang, dang, I suck!
Most 1.My own quirky style 2.Athletic inclination 3.Individual mindset Least 1.I overpay free agents.
Thanks a lot Gascon, now I'll be depressed for a week. Man, I got issues. Write right, stupid. Stupid, stupid kbm. You suck kbm. Ugh, you suck, kbm.
Best Intelligence Kindness Dependable Accuracy/Precision-- This will sound strange, but I am convinced that I have an accuracy gene or something. From the time I even started to play sports, I had have the most uncanny accuracy of anyone that I have ever met. In basketball, I'm not that athletic, but I made my living being the best shooter in every league that I was in. In fact, I'm exceptional from NBA range right now. In football, I never had the monster arm that top quarterbacks do. But if you stay in a 25 yard area, I can hit you on the numbers, in motion, on the sideline, and it will be right there. In baseball, I never had a great fastball, but I never, ever walked anyone unintentionally. In leagues with terrible wildness, every pitch I threw was in and around the strike zone. I'm not sure how this can help me in the future, but it's truly a unique skill that I have. Worst Again, kindness. My actual personality is different than the perception of me by a few BBS members. I'm nice, but at times to the point where I can be taken advantage of. Life is short, and I choose to have as few enemies as possible. Even if someone acts like a complete jackass, I still try to smile and be pleasant, even when there are times that I wonder if I shouldn't. Of course, in leadership positions I will correct people when they are doing wrong, but I make a point not to say anything about them personally. I know my sometimes argumentative style on the BBS can contradict some of those things, but since I won't become acquainted with the majority of posters, I am a little more open.
the best thing about me is: my own special style in everything. the not so best thing about me is: i refuse to take medicine and i have a short attention span.
Cool thread. MOST: Creativity Kindness and consideration for others Sense of humor Loyalty to friends Ear for music (play, sing, listen) LEAST: Lack of motivation Procrastination Insecurity Worry about everything (Anxiety)
i have just as many chic friends as i do guy ones. i think you get back what you put into a friendship. if you’re a backstabbing and untrustworthy person, then people aren’t going to be very nice to you, now are they? just my opinion.
Most: My Hair I'm funny sometimes My farts smell like fresh daisies I think I've improved at caring for others Least: Worry too much Saying the wrong thing at the wrong time when someone really needs to hear the right thing My ability to grow facial hair
Mrs. JB, I was thinking about the age gap thing when I read your post. It was bad in high school. Real bad. I didn't know any girls who were friends with each other for more than a month or so. MY experience with most girls in high school is that they are backstabbing and evil. And something else that I've thought of it that bad things stick in my head really well. So I tend to remember the not nice girls over the nice ones, of which there were some. College has been a little different. People are finding their own place in the world. There's less 'need' for competition I think. Everyone pretty much does their own thing. My roommate and I are great friends. And I wouldn't trade that for almost anything. I know I'm a more secure person than I was in high school. I also have a better relationship with my mom and my brother. And I have a great roommate and a great boyfriend. In that aspect, I couldn't ask for much more. And I'm not trying to shoot down everyone else's ideas. I just usually feel that my ideas are the unheard ones (a naive assumption on my part). But I do listen to everyone on here and take that into consideration. I know I don't have all the answers, but I'm getting there. My ideas today are not the same ones I had a couple of years ago. Life is such a learning process. And Manny-I understand what you are talking about. I'm sorry that you see it as a failure. I know it probably sounds easy, but try not to take it that way. If the girl is unresponsive, you're probably better off without her. Try looking at it that way, maybe, with a little different attitude?
Princess -- I understand what you're saying about high school girls. That was a pretty brutal time in my life. And yes, there did seem to be an inordinate amount competition. It was almost like a struggle for allocation of resources. There were just so many high grades, cute guys and good friends to go around... I found it got much better in college. Then by the time my late twenties rolled around a lot of the turmoil seemed to settle down. I think by that time most women have partners, careers and/or families so there doesn't seem to be as much to strive for. You can start taking stock of the life you have and reaching out to people that you can share it with. I sound like some old crone (I'm only 32!) but it seems that the gap between the twenties and thirties is huge. My sister is only seven years younger than me, but there are time I'd swear we live in completely different worlds. We have absolutely nothing in common. So if I jumped on your post I apologize -- I forgot that we're looking at the world from very different vantage points.
I guess I should answer the thread question too: Like: Brains. Creativity. Sense of humor. Hopeless romantic. Dislike: The endless struggle between the dichotomous Nice Kagy and ******* Kagy personas. Passive aggressive nature. Not a good conversationalist until I get to know people.
