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Lakers v. Hornets

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Cannonball, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Cannonball

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    Rockets one game out of first.

    Man, does that loss to Sacramento REALLY piss me off now.
     
  2. rpr52121

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    No, Its those early season loses to Memphis and Miami that piss me off.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    Baloney. Last season, he was coming into his own before the injuries. Though a mediocre talent, he was the main glue guy on the team.

    While he's clearly regressed this season and lost his confidence, your statement is wrong. Maybe the guaranteed $25MM he got over the summer has sapped his motivation.
     
  4. Icehouse

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    I believe Walton is playing injured.

    So does this game seal the MVP for Kobe?
     
  5. joshbo90

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    sweet only 1 game back of new orleans for the division title and 1st in the conference :D
     
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    if Luke Walton is the main glue guy on your team, injured or not, your team is going to be in trouble.
     
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    Still i think CP plays extremely great this season. He plays wonderful~
     
  8. A_3PO

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    Last season he was. This season before Bynum was injured, the Lakers had the best record in the West even with Walton playing mediocre. His value to the Lakers is very low right now. Getting Pau has caused LO to flourish, Derek Fisher has replaced Smush Parker, space cadet VladRam is back on planet Earth and is finally contributing and both Farmar and Vujacic have taken another step. All of these things (and his recent awful play) have pushed Walton down the Laker food chain. Instead of a glue guy, he's a liability most of the time.
     
  9. yaoluv

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    I think CP3 is too new to win the mvp....
    i mean are you really going to give the mvp to someone newer than lebron... before lebron wins the mvp!!
     
  10. Storm Surge

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    Kobe will get it because he has been good for all these years, while paul just got into the conversation. He gets points because he has been like top 5 for the past 3 or so years.
     
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  12. plutoblue11

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    It happened with Steve Nash and even Karl Malone. So why not CP3, if he is having great year and carried a team that wasn't in playoff picture last year into a #1 conference team, why not?
     
  13. Kim

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    Nash helped turnaround a bad team into back to back conference finalists.

    The Hornets were terrible last year mainly because of injury.

    That said, CP3 is doing everything worthy of an MVP, and so is Kobe...and since they'll pretty much be tied in team success (similar if not exact records with a 2-2 split in head to head), there's no objective way to say one is more deserving than the other.

    I'd think KG has the best case, it's just that he's the unsexy choice being in the weak East. If the West wasn't so good...even if it was like 6 great teams and 2 mediocre ones making the playoffs, I think the media would be leaning towards KG (the best player on the best team). It's just that this year the West is so tough and the East isn't (that's nothing new), but it's on a record setting pace of being tough, with the 9th team on pace to break the wins for a non playoff team (what was that, 48 by the Rockets?).

    Honestly, it's not hard to imagine that if Boston were a Western team, they'd be right up there with Houston, Lakers, Hornets, and Spurs, vying for the #1 seed. And in that case, KG would have to be in the picture for MVP. All in all, it doesn't really matter because it's just a subjective award given out by people who don't even watch most games.

    I think the MVP should be voted on by Scouts from each team. Just my opinion.
     
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    Dunk of the year? I think so!
     
  15. plutoblue11

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    Paul also has better stats than Nash.

    And again, the NO supporting cast is Chandler, Peja, and West

    Nash supporting cast included Amare, Marion, Johnson, Richardson, and Barbosa.
     
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    Ya know, not that I'm a Kobe lover or anything, I want to see him win the MVP award just to see what kind of outrage that would cause. Like him or not, that would be entertaining to see, different people go off in illogical tirades. :D
     
  17. Air Langhi

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    The suns lost amare in 05-06 and nash took them to conference finals. Don't think Kobe has taken his team anywhere except the 1st round. Now they have gasol they might get past it. Nash deserved that mvp.
     
  18. plutoblue11

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    Not saying he didn't deserve, but Paul has greater numbers across the board and about to become one of only a few players in NBA history to accomplish 20 points and 10 assists a game.

    Nash was great, but I hated when people try to downsize the team mates, Phoenix still had a decent supporting cast.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    Based on the fact Boston is 25-5 against the West, it's hard to imagine them being anything other than the #1 seed with a similar record to what they have now.
     
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