I was one that was the main supporter of LEBRON for mvp but the cavs didnt win enough games therefore making it impossible for to realistically win. Kobe should win but whether he or paul wins they are both deserving And for the people mentioning colorado.....Kobe didnt rape that tramp, it was about money let it go........At the end of the day Kobe is royalty and shes just a tramp that wanted money
That article makes some familiar points... http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=3547404&postcount=20 I still think this is Kobe's year.
It took me three attempts before I could get through that article. Is that what passes for journalism these days? I'm all for having younger, hipper sportswriters but he needs to realize his homies from the 'hood aren't the only people interested in reading stories about the NBA.
Quoted for accuracy. Even in Jordan's statistically-earned MVP (his 1st) he at least lead his team to a tie for 3rd and 50 wins in a decent Eastern conference and none else's combined stats were in the ballpark. Outside of this one oddity, the MVP is almost always on a top 3 team--with more weight if you lead your team to the best record. IF the Lakers finish 1st in the West, Kobe deserves it. IF the Hornets are 1st, Paul deserves. If neither finish 1st in the West, all bets are off (Kobe, Pual or KG all have cases) and no losers, even if it is Kobe, should be crying. Bunch of Kobe jockriders, kinda sick.
Tonight I saw Kobe Bryant single handly bring his team back in the 4th quarter. They were down by 16 points, got down to 3 all because of Kobe. Albeit the Lakers lost the game. But that was because the whole team except Kobe and Radmonovic sucked tonight. I have watched Kobe play this entire season. I have only watched CP3 like 4 times. But based on seeing his performance Kobe is more than deserving of MVP. Even if he lost tonight's game.
If your going to use the argument who mostly single-handidly produced the most wins or close-losses/near comeback wins with a rag tag group then you go with Lebron. The Lakers are deep, star studded, and been healthy--compared to the Cavs. That said I don't think his team has done enough to still merit consideration even though Lebron has been the most dominant and highest performing single player in the league this year. MVP historically don't go to the best player or most outstanding individual player--team success has been equally weighted if not more. Kobe needs to carry his team at least past NO to deserve the MVP for this year's body of work. Paul leads the league in 2 major categories and shoots a higher % than Kobe, he pretty much has an equal statistical case/individual performance numbers. If his team ends up better, he would be gyped to be passed over for Kobe. As an aside, on top of his 11-26 shooting against a non-playoff squad, it is further interesting that Kobe has a -13 on/off court rating for the game tonight. Maybe he didn't play as focused and impactful as you think.
So based on the 4 games you watched CP4 played and decide he doesnt deserved MVP more than Kobe? You may be the biggest kobe homer in this forum!
Call me crazy, but if Chris Paul wins, and somehow the Lakers were to meet NO at some point in the playoffs...do you think Kobe might try to like...prove something?
Like how he has proven to 1st round fodder and squanderer of big playoff series leads everytime he has been in the playoffs w/o Shaq to carry the load? Wasn't this supposed to happen against 2 time MVP Nash, including one year Nash's squad had more faults than the Pacific Coast? Wasn't in the 1st round Kobe supposed to show how he was more valuable than the supposed unworthy Nash That said, I would expect the Lakers and Kobe to do well against NO. NO has no playoff experience and really only 2 well rounded players + a couple of role playing specialists (Peja to shoot, Chandler to play D and board) + subpar rotation players from 5-9 spots. Some folks are even trying to discount Paul by bringing up David West, as if he is the next Karl Malone or something. Very solid 4, yes, but I wouldn't even say he is a Carlos Boozer. I mean who does NO have to try to guard Kobe? Morris Peterson, Bonzi Wells, Peja, Rsual Butler--yes it could get ugly. Besides, both the Lakers and Hornets need to focus on getting out of the 1st round--which will be barely 50/50 (if that) if they draw the Suns or Mavs, and they could have loads of trouble with Denver or GS or Houston as well.
People like to change their guidelines for MVP for whomever they like. How about a comparison based on each thing they bring to the game. Top 4 MVP candidates Paul, Bryant, James, KG. Team wins: 1. KG 2. Paul 3. Kobe 4. James Offense 1. James 2. Kobe 3. Paul 4. KG Defense 1a. Kobe 1b. KG 3. James 4. Paul Crappier Supporting Cast 1. James 2. Kobe 3. Paul 4. KG Totals for each player Paul: 2, 3, 4, 3 = 12. Average = 3 Kobe: 3, 2, 1, 2 = 8. Average = 2 James: 4, 1, 3, 1 = 9. Average = 2.25 KG: 1, 4, 1, 4 = 10. Average = 2.5 MVP: 1. Kobe 2. James 3. KG 4. Paul
Kobe has crapper support cast than CPIII?? Let's see, Lamar Odom > Peja, Pau Gasol > David West, Andrew Bynum > Tyson Chandler, Lakers' bench*50% > Hornets' bench. I know you want Kobe to win the MVP, but your assessment has to be more fair.
It is a huge stretch to equate Kobe's defense with KGs. Have you seen Boston's turnaround in defensive numbers, and looked at the Lakers numbers. Do that one switch, and Kobe, Lebron and KG all have 9s. Besides, this system just uses a rank ordering, it doesn't account for the magnitude of difference. It also doesn't count various other metrics that objectively look at efficiency (TS%, A/TO, +/-etc). For instance of these 4 players, Kobe has the lowest A/TO ratio (Paul's is out this world), lowest PER (Lebron and Paul way up, KG and KB) and tied with KG for the lowest Roland ranking (considers on/off and production versus opponent's--Lebron is by far the highest). Kobe is #2 in true shooting, though they all are ckise, KG at .588, Kobe at .577, CP at 5.74 and LB at .566. So let us simply. By objective/statistical arguments: 1 LJ (solid 1) 2 CP (solid 2) 3 KB 3 KG By team accomplishments as of right now: 1 KG (by a mile) 2 CP 3 KB 4 LJ (distant 4) IF Paul's team finishes ahead of Kobe's there is simply no non-homerism way for Kobe to earn the MVP based on this year's body of work. If he got it under this scenario it would be a career achievement award (e.g., Malone over Duncan in 99) or hype/media generated award. Now if Kobe's team finishes ahead of Paul, him getting the MVP is certainly defensable (not an overwhelming case over KG and CP, but a good enough one). The Lakers losing to Charlotte, Memphis and Portland down the stretch with an easy schedule to finish out for securing the #1 seed isn't helping his case. Nonetheless they pretty much only need to win their next 4 games--all played in LA--for Kobe and the Lakers to take the 1st seed. Show up Paul and lead his team to victory over the Hornets friday, and then lead his team to a win over the Spurs sunday, Kobe probably has it.
I think there was a backlash against Kobe the first couple seasons after he raped that woman, but it subsides more and more each year. I think the writer is grossly overestimating the strength of the blacklist.
dude! you didn't understand my post. I did mention that I only watched CP3 only 4 times, so I can't really judge him. But because I've been watching Kobe all season, I know he deserves MVP. But who knows what I would think about Chris Paul is I saw him play a lot. I am a Kobe fan, but not a "homer" like other posters.
Agreed. Didn't you have one media idiot claim Kobe was really better than Michael Jordan? By and large there is little hangover from the Colorado incident (excapt for a few). The bigger hangover was how he exploded his former team, ran Shaq out, and how the Lakers havn't done squat since. Heck, this is the 1st year his team will be higher than a #7 seed, the worst conference record/placement an MVP has had int he past 20 years was tied for 3rd, and that was Jordan's first. Despite some major flaws in his personal and professional record (not leading his team to team success), Kobe is one of the most well received/kissed up to NBA players by media and fans (purchases).
