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Tracy, grow up pls!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TeamUSA, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. Jeff Who

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    You got to be kidding. You better look at his games again good defenders and than say cause something like that ain't true.
     
  2. Jerry36

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    That was early in the season. What happen to tmac in the lakers,celtics, and hornets games. Those were statement games and he didn't even show up. The thing to worry about is will Tmac come through in a crucial playoff game in the deciding moments, because it didn't happen last year.
     
  3. Aloe

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    And 11 rebounds. Some people only know how to be haters.
     
  4. Blake

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    check his stats for the playoffs last year. Then check everybody else's. It might clear up why we lost. It had nothing to do with Tracy.

    I don't want to sound like a ***, because there are things about his game/attitude that bother me as well, but your utter dislike of him makes you blind to a lot of facts
     
  5. Achilleus

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    Didn't he score 41 points against the Hornets earlier this month? And he scored 34 points in a blow out win in New Orleans in February.

    T-Mac has had a bad couple weeks, and he'll eventually get out of his rut. But he's more than capable of having big games against good teams. Even if his outside jumper isn't following, he needs to find other ways to contribute. He's good enough to where he can impact a game without scoring a lot of points, and I wish he did more of that.
     
  7. dram1

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    "IMPOSE HIS WILL ON IT" means he either started attacking the basket relentlessly or he got hot and hit his normal array 18ft fade-aways, elbow threes as he walks the ball up the court, or 19ft pull-up jumpers behind the pick.

    My guess is he got hot. He hasn't become a relentless attacker in an awful long time.

    Let's go TMAC...BEAST UP!!!
     
  8. yobod

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    He made 4 shots, he hit that nice pass to Bobby J (which wouldn't have happened had he not been driving to the basket in the first place), his defense went up a notch.....everything was put into overdrive in the 4th. I have no problem with him coasting against a team like the T-wolves for the first 3 Q's as long as he gets it together in the 4th. The NBA season is a marathon, and we're in the stretch run. You have to keep your energy and your composure under control, otherwise you'll burn yourself out. Look at the big picture instead of bashing him over 3 quarters in a game that we won. Where were you haters when we were winning 22 in a row? T-Mac was still there during all that, and we wouldn't have even won 3 in a row if he wasn't. Get it together...some of you people just have to hate on something, and if there's nothing to hate on, you hate on garbage like this quote. He said something that was honest....you guys bash him. He lies...you guys would bash him. You freaking need to grow up and learn that nobody can bring it for 4 quarters for each and every game. I'm sorry, but I would love to see you get intense and into a game against a last place team in an arena that was completely dead compared to the 22 game winning streak. Players are humans, and we should treat them like it.
     
  9. yobod

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    It's so freaking easy to sit there and spout off lie after lie after lie, isn't it? Check his goddamned stats in the 04-05 playoffs AND last year's before you spew your hate again. The man had 29 pts last year in Game 7....I would call that a crucial moment, wouldn't you???? IT'S A FREAKING TEAM EFFORT....where's the hate for Luther Head? If you're gonna bash T-Mac, then bash him even harder....that dude completely DISAPPEARS in big games, yet there's not one thread about him. I was HOPING that the winning streak would show once and for f***ing all that this is a team sport, but you people just don't get it. T-Mac NEEDS his teammates to hit shots. If that doesn't happen, he gets double-teamed, and there goes his ability to drive to the basket. Defenses have to think that if they double him, we're gonna kill them with the 3. That's how we won 22....not because T-Mac took on everybody 1 on 5.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    :cool: wned.Ha Ha Ha, March 9 is sure early in the season. At least get your facts straight when you try to hate on T-Mac.
     
  11. A00man

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    Dude, quit wasting your time. Some of these bone heads will never get the fact that the NBA is a team sport. If Tracy doesn't consistently school 2-3 people at one time, he sucks. It doesn't matter whatever else the team does. Tracy needs to score regardless of what defensive tactics other teams use on him. He was supposed to shoot 25 footers against the Celtics and kill them regardless of what they did. Don't you know? Tracy is supposed to be superman!
     
  12. Jerry36

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    I'm not worrying about the regular season, it's all about the playoffs. I just hope he doesn't do what Kevin Garnett used to do in the playoffs (defer).
     
  13. Jerry36

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    Here you are in a crucial game 7 been guarded by 6'1 fisher and Tmac starts the game shooting blanks. That deflated the whole team. If Tmac comes out on fire the team would follow his lead. And when it came to crunch time he starting passing the ball to his teammates. When you're a superstar you have know when to pass the ball and when to step up. Lebron get double and triple team, but that doesn't stop him from attacking basket. Why?, because he's going out fighting.
     
  14. Jerry36

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    Mr. Frankenstine, is that a bone in your head? Sir, If you pull it out you might understand better.
     
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    Let me ask you what are you reading? Let’s get one thing straight here. I am a HUGE Rockets fan just like everybody else here. If I was not then why would I be a member? And I am not a Tracy McGrady HATER by any means. I am just giving my opinion about the guy that is all. Again I never ask anyone to agree with me. And why should I have to agree with anyone that Tracy McGrady is a Superstar? I just call it like I see it. I never said that Tracy CAN NOT GET TO THE HOLE. I said that he has a harder time getting to the rack. Is this not true? Sure T-MAC can get to the hole but he does not have that same explosive quick step like he used too. Now is anything I said in this paragraph flawed or unjust in anyway. I believe I should be able to have my own objective thoughts on a player. A Superstar to me is someone who is one of the top Elites in a sport. There is a difference between a star player and a Superstar. Kenny Smith explains the comparison of the two so well. To me Tracy is not Elite anymore. Sure he can do some of the same stuff that Kobe can do still but I just think T-MAC's better days are behind him now. 80% of the time can you honestly say that T-MAC is the best talent on the court? Because I can not. This is not a knock on T-MAC. It is not his fault that his body is breaking down faster than other guys. It is not his fault that he can not bring the same energy out there every night. Some nights he has it and some nights he is looking like he wants to be somewhere else. Be a fan nevertheless but be true to yourself.


    I don't care who you are when the toughest game of the season approaches you have to be ready. Again like I said before he went 4-11 shooting against the Celtics. Most of the time he was out there he looked like he was just not all the interested in the game. I can respect Kobe at least trying to shoot his team back into the game. Why are there so many nights that Rafer Alston has more shot attempts that T-MAC? Maybe 4 games ago I was watching Rafer Alston and Tracy go through a series of passing the ball back and forward to each other. Rafer came down the court and passed the ball to Tracy, Tracy passed the ball back to Rafer, Rafer passed the ball back to Tracy, Tracy passed the ball back to Rafer, Rafer passed the ball back to Tracy and then Tracy finally decided to take the ball. This was probably in a span of about 8 seconds. You don't know if Tracy is going to give you 10 points or 40 and I am suppose to compare him to Kobe? Get real!




    I discounted Dwayne Wade's season because I did not want anyone to say but he was injured this year. Nobody is trashing McGrady for being injured. I think that most of us with true basketball knowledge would definitely pick a healthy Dwayne Wade over Tracy McGrady at this stage of the ball game.



    Yes I believe that Tracy McGrady is soft. I get tired of him holding something on his body and making those nasty ass faces. If you do not want to play then don't play. Did you know that Allen Iverson has broken nearly every bone in his body? But because that guy has heart he never shows any signs of weakness. The guy is 6 foot even and still takes it to the hole at full speed. I would like to see the same thing from T-MAC.


    Anybody can decide to change their game. There is nothing wrong with that. Kobe has completely changed his game for the most part and has become a primary jump shooter. The better your team is the less you have to work. But there are still times where you have to be able to get to the hole. I just don't see T-MAC being as explosive as he used to be. He needs a screen or a pick for the most part to get by his defender where Kobe can break his defender down most times with one or two dribbles. Again he is not an Elite player anymore so what can you say. Nobody in their right mind would still say that Tracy is one of the top 10 talents in the world.


    Why is your whole argument based around Kobe? This is a pretty weak argument to me from your standpoint. You would have done better if you would have compared Tracy to a list of players to make your points more valid. This argument is like comparing Clyde Drexler to Michael Jordan it is just wrong. I actually like Tracy. I think Tracy is a cool guy. When Tracy was in Orlando I was a Tracy defender and told many people that if you trade Tracy for Kobe then the Lakers would still have championships. I never said that I did not like Tracy; I just don't think he is the same player that some people try to make him out to be. Tracy is a better passer than Kobe I will give you that. But Kobe does everything Tracy does twice as better at this stage in their careers just face it.

    Another guy that does not read that well I see. I never called anyone names that did not first call me a name. Go back and read my very first post on this thread and read all the post up until this one. Reading is fundamental.
     
  16. Achilleus

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    lol...

    Corrected by the facts. So let's try another angle...

    Corrected by the facts. So let's try another angle...

    Corrected by the facts. So let's try another angle...

    McGrady's Career Regular Season
    22.4 points, 6.2 rebounds, 4.7 assists

    McGrady's Career Playoffs
    28.8 points, 6.6 rebounds, 6.1 assists

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tracy_mcgrady/

    Over his career, Kobe has scored less (23.3), rebounded less (4.9), and had around the same amount of assists (4.5) in the playoffs.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/career_stats.html

    McGrady's performance has gone up in the playoffs.

    Try again...
     
  17. Almu

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    Can we put a minimum age requirement on the BBS soon to weed out the kids?
     
  18. Layupdrill

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    THIS IS THE MOST r****dED THREAD IN HISTORY
     
  19. Htowns_Finest

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    True that brother!
     
  20. Htowns_Finest

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    I want to support T-MAC as well. I wish he would man up too.
     

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