Im not sure whats funnier Meowgi's blatant attempts to rile you guys up or You guys actually taking it seriously. Its almost like yall dont read anything in here except China-related threads, if you did you would have recognized this for what it is.
I don't know much this Meowgi dude. But maybe you are right. His 'opinions' is so ridiculous that he couldn't be serious.
Did you forget to take your medication? Golly, have I got some info for you! (By the way, you should seriously consider the possibility that you could overdose on CCP propaganda and go into a coma. Of course, that's probably the state you are in now. If so, my apologies.) The map reflects the findings of Freedom House's survey Freedom in the World 2007. For each country, the survey provides a concise report on political and human rights developments, along with ratings of political rights and civil liberties. Based on these ratings, countries are divided into three categories: Free (green), Partly Free (orange), and Not Free (red), as reflected in the map. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Freedom_House_world_map_2007.png Still another attempted measure of democracy is the Democracy Index by The Economist. This map shows the Democracy Index as published in January, 2007. The palest blue countries get a score above 9.5 out of 10 (with Sweden being the most democratic country at 9.88), while the black countries score below 2 (with North Korea being the least democratic at 1.03). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy Impeach Bush. Enjoy the Democratic Election in November.
Yes, meowgi's approach is unconventional and often inflammatory. At times insightful, but you have to get past the words. And no, I don't think he's a right-wing nut. I'm not sure what kind of nut he is.
So your point is that the "not free" countries are the worst off. Have you ever considered that correlation is not causation? Or have you considered the fact that your pictures completely misses the point that the US calls for regime change in various countries in the name of "freedom" and "democracy" and that the results have been spotty at best and completely abysmal at worst? Mullah Mohammed Omar and Osama Bin Laden were once considered by the US to be "freedom fighters," and Saddam Hussein was once considered to be a bastion of freedom in the Middle East against Iranian tyranny. I repeat what I said: "freedom" and "democracy" are proxies for American/Western imperialism and are liberally applied whenever it suits their interests and ignored when it doesn't, such as in Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority.
the map doesn't mean much. it's basically western countries and those who surrender to their ideology versus the nations who still have a sense of pride and want to dictate their own destiny. and i honestly don't think the world will ever be the same color. the difference is too big if pushed too hard, it'll just be another world war. both sides should be rational and be patient and sort out the differences on the negotiation table. why don't you switch the green and the red? not that it matters.
obviously everyone wants to be peaceful all the time. but people will always end up point out the differences and find ways to b**** at each other. just how it goes. if you think there won't be future conflict due to whatever reason, then you are just naive. i mean, look at this thread, everyone has been b****ing at each other. nobody is going to agree on anything.
China - when beaming with pride with your so-called economic growth, please take a long hard look at the systematic corruption taking place in your local governments. Please take a look at your worsening environments and the widening gap between the filthy riches and the desperate poors. Compared to the many millions who are suffering in your rural areas, Tibet's situation should be the least of your worries. Leave them alone to their religion and learn first how to treat your own people properly. Chinese posters - there is no doubt that a degree of bias existed in the Western media. But CCP's past histories do not allow it to enjoy any beneift of the doubt. It is a lose-lose situation. Unfortunately, understanding can only come with time and with openness. I don't believe any of the posters here is racist. Just look at how Yao is embraced and loved by all (correct me if I am wrong) on this board. He is one who represents the best of Chinese - hardworking, humble and honest. Sadly, the same cannot be said about many back in mainland China. As a HK Chinese who moved to Australia with family at a young age, I consider myself both Chinese and Australian. I have been reading this thread (and many other China-related threads) with mixed emotions. I wish for a successful Olympics - a boycott will only harm the common people in Beijing who were forced to sacrifice a lot to make this happen, and what of all the honest athletes around the world? A boycott will also block an otherwise rare and open access to China, which will be home for thousands of journalists from the outside world. Call me optismistic, but I strongly believe that an open Olympics could be a starting point for the betterment of the lives of the 1.3 billion Chinese people.
betterment of lives of the 1.3 billion Chinese people will continue with or without the Olympics. it started already, i doubt it'll stop anytime soon.
I think it's a common misconception that all the rural area in China is desperately poor. Of course, China is so big that you can always find some miserable and shabby looking people in certain dirt-poor rural areas, just like in every other country. But as far as I know, generally speaking, the living standard in the rural area has been rising rapidly in recent years. My friend went to visit his relatives who live in village lately. His relatives are farmers so I thought they must be some desperate folks whose primary concern is to find enough foods to survive. But my friend said his farmer relative drove a brand new 7 passenger van to pick him up. And based on what he described, these farmers are some well-off people and they are the norms in the area where they live rather than the exceptions. Since I had the same misconception before, I honestly was surprised at what he told me.
You don't get to say that. You've already capitulated to autocracy. We will tell you what's best for you, you mindless zombie, you herd cow, you sled dog. If we want to send you to live on a collective farm we will. If we want to work you in a sweat factory you will. We don't care if you use poisonous materials or breath polluted air, you are subject to the greater good of the future BBS; or me, but they are both the same thing. You should work harder to please me. How's looking for a girl friend going over there? It doesn't matter because all chinese men are... Just kidding. But I don't even want America's businessmen running my life. Power to the people, man. Worldwide. What's that hat say?
how dare you insulting me like that? i don't even remember what i was referring to anymore. gosh, i've said too many things in the last week or so.
LOL. do you guys expect Y to win on this poll? remember there are millions of chinese fans reading this. hehehehe.
Added to the post. I wasn 't serious. Besides this the internet, you can say whatever you want. It's democratic that way. Hey man, look at Pakistan, they are democraticing like crazy. I want to party with those guys.
That's true. But you have really crossed the line to insult people who don't agree with you or has a different way of thinking. If you really cherish democracy that much, you should let them have their own thoughts and beliefs, no matter whether you think whether they are right or wrong. I think your post #133 is really disgusting and low.
If it's humor, it's a sick kind of humor. So everyone can insult anyone else and then just call it 'humor'? I started this thread so I think I have to speak up against a post like that.
Absurdity know it? Get a bootleg DVD of some George Carlin and see how savage absurdity reveals universal truths. He totally destroys our preconceived, provincial notions. You are supposed to be insulted, that's the point. I did qualify it with an edit. I really only feel sorry for people who don't understand the ultimate importance of freedom. I personally would go insane if my life were dictated any more than it is. I guess a billion me's would be chaos.
