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Adleman's Substitution Patterns

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by poprocks, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. poprocks

    poprocks Member

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    Has anyone figured out Adleman's subtitution patterns because for the life of me, I cannot figure out why he does what he does. T-Mac plays 48 minutes in one game and then cut back in the next. Landry and Scola's numbers go up and down and Hayes seems to be getting more minutes. Harris goes in sometimes for Landry but the entire subbing thing has me puzzled. :confused:
     
  2. BroadwayBelm

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    it makes perfect sense.




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  3. HeyDude

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    Whatever he's going its working......... agreed??
     
  4. Hayesfan

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    At this point I think he is playing the match up game and is in fact doing it pretty well with a few exceptions.

    I have gotten to the point where I can tell about who he is going to sub in during specific times of the game and when he will sub them back out.

    Mainly though if someone is doing well, he's leaving them in unless they get into foul trouble or hurt.
     
  5. bewy

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    This is just me though, I believe AD is trying to test where each player does best at during different circumstances. Remember during some of the losses in the mid seasons? They were mostly due to brooks' rookie mistakes so I guess AD wants avoid that.
     
  6. allindaze

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    He's looking to avoid mistakes in the playoffs but also giving his starters the credit they deserve. There's a reason Jackson and Harris aren't out there every night and rafer sitting on his butt. He's got to allow his starters to play. I also agree on the match ups. If it's a tough defender he's going to want Hayes on them instead of a smaller quicker Head or Landry.
     
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    this was the main compliant kings fans had with RA...they said that his rotation was too short and too unpredictable
     
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    I just think he needs to play Head less and play Brooks and Novak more.
     
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    It's his first year with the team, and we have some young players in the rotation. So, I'm not that surprised that he doesn't have a fixed rotation.
     
  10. WNBA

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    because each game is different, very very different.

    after saying that, I have to admit Adelman's rotation was weird but functional during 22-win streak.
     
  11. Mikeylu

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    its all situational..which you can tell by all the postgame interviews..

    im more then satisfied by his coaching job...i thought it'd take half the season for the players to "get" the adelman offense..and now we are in a 3 way tie for 2nd in the west...amazing..not to mention the 22 game winstreak.
     
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    In regards to Landry, I think the Rockets are trying to supress the beast, so we can lock up cheap.
     
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    We've got 49 wins right now who the hell cares.
     
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    This is one area where I find R.A. confusing; perhaps there are very strategic reasons for what he does, but I can't discern them. Especially Hayes' minutes increasing, and Head popping up at the oddest times. Oh well, the bottomline is good.
     
  15. Knight

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    I am only guessing of course, but I do think that it depends on the offensive set he wants to run at a particular time. His offensive set is diverse enough that if he thinks a certain offensive set will work against certain oponents and matchups, he simply puts in the players that best executes that particular offense.

    So if he wants to run a certain type of flex offense at a particular point in time during a game, he will put in the combination of players that at training, or during games, shows they can run that type of flex offense best.

    I can see some advantages of doing it this way - for starters not every player needs to know the entire playbook, only the plays that he is part of (so each combination of players has a set of plays assigned that suits the strength of that combination of players). This means that players can practice and rehearse their plays much more effectively. Secondly, every substitution immediately indicates to the players a change in the offensive gameplan, and lastly also means Adelman can throw many varied offensive looks at an opponent simply by making substitutions.

    I do notice that sometimes when he does mass substitution, the offense suddenly clicks (but I don't watch enough games so maybe someone else can clarify or disprove).

    Could also be defensive matchups, of course...
     
  16. shipwreck

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    Adelman is better about being flexible to matchups (both individual player vs defender and 5 vs 5 definitions) than Van Gundy was. The only thing I am still unsure on is his use of Luther Head. It seems like he can't make his mind up on how to best utilize him.
     
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    is there any reason why bobby jackson plays in spurts, besides he's old and tired? that's the only reason i can think of, cause sometimes, jackson has been playing very good, but then rafer replaces him, when rafer didn't do crap in the 1st quarter. the only reason i can think of is, bobby being old.
     
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    Because Luther has not been playing consistently well when he is given floor time.

    Snyder the other night had me thinking.....maybe Snyder was a better keeper and send Head packing. Luther has better handles this year, but still seems to lack the confidence to really turn the switch on like Tmac can do in the 4th when he feels the urge.

    Maybe Luther needs to spend a summer with a Lucas type coach, being the point guard and building up his iq and his confidence.
     
  19. poprocks

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    Well I guess the overall result is good. It's just that I don't want T-Mac playing 48 minutes in the playoffs. That's a sure way to get us eliminated fast. T-Mac needs to get some bench time to rest and let someone else carry the load albeit for a short time.
     

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