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T-Mac needs to suck it up!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ced, Mar 26, 2008.

  1. BigM

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    i don't know but it seems to me a lot of people know exactly what kind of pain t-mac has and what level of pain a player should play through. he's one of the best athletes of his time and one of the best players in the game. to say he's not competitive and not wanting to play every single game seems kind of stupid to me. possibly when he says he's hurt, he actually is, but that just makes too much sense.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    i would rather that he complain about small stuff and take a game off to let it heal than shutting up and playing even he's hurt then suddenly shutting the whole season..
     
  3. Nelly

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    Quoted For Truth
     
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    might be a valid point if only adelman didn't want to take t-mac out of those 48 min games and mcgrady told him he wanted to stay in.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Tell that to Grant Hill. Every since Hill, I think players should sit if they're injured and could jeopordize their career. If yao was hurt, we should have sat him and sacrifice losing him for the season. Grant Hill was the best wing in basketball at the time.He was 20-8-8 on a nightly basis. During the playoffs he severely sprained his ankle. He shouldn't have played, but like the op said he tried to "suck it up." After basicaly playing on a broken ankle, he's missed basically 5 yrs of hoops. What was once a hof to be career, we see him now as what might have been.

    If a guy is injured, get off the floor. I'd rather have yao playing now going into the playoffs as a 7th seed, than not having him and being a 1 seed. If tracy needs sit a game or so, so be it. We need him healthy and ready ti go.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    if tmac is hurt, people think he's a wuss and he should man up to play at all cost.

    carl landry or yao ming are hurt and they say rest until they're 100% (although landry suffers a less severe form of the same injury).

    sure tmac has not delivered us any playoff success, but no one on this rockets team has delivered us any success.

    tmac has played with pain throughout this entire season. he has manned up and absorbed all of the criticisms by the media AND houston fans and have not criticized and talked back one bit. i still remember the trade rumors, the backlash when he first came out with the injury, and yet tmac has still remained optimistic, smiling...

    why can't the fans be the same?
     
  7. ced

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    You all are missing the whole point. So pay close attention and I will try to go as slow as I can.

    1. I do not want players playing if they are "injured".

    2. If you think you are "injured", believe they should get checked out.

    3. If you are not injured, but do have pain, stop telling everyone or making faces while you are on the court because it looks soft. If you do it once, then that is fine, but damn... evertime he gets "hurt" his game goes to crap.
    either man up.. or sit down, but stop b****ing or looking sorry for yourself while you are on the court.

    4. He is not the only player on the team that is playing hurt or playing a lot of minutes and you don't hear them b****ing about it. Shane plays the toughest player "every night" gets hurt and doesn't b****.

    I just think that the fact of how he isn't physical enough, but is the most physicaly talented player on the team, plus the fact that his mood affects his play so much makes me feel he needs to man up!
     
  8. saleem

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    Right on. If he is hurt don't play,but don't go around telling the press about it.
     
  9. abc2007

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    That's very interesting! I guess people believe the rockets cannot win without Tmac. If Tmac was out of season, many fans here would kill themselves! ;)

     
  10. Texas Stoke

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    Or what?
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tmac is too honest with the media, but he also is a drama King who over emphasizes the issue too.

    I just hope he keeps playing and the Rockets keep winning, but I think the Rockets should seriously entertain offers this offseason, at least look.

    DD
     
  12. pmac

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    What attainable player would be better for this team than him?
     
  13. Texas Stoke

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    He does do this. But he just wants you to know he's hurt so that way if he's not playing well you won't be too mad at him. At least he's not a phoney tough dude like Francis.
     
  14. pmac

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    not even looking at contracts just a player that the other team wouldn't mind giving up for an injury prone superstar, that's also better for us.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Assuming they can get value then.....

    I would look at getting several good players and some draft picks for him......and build completely around Yao.....

    The issue I have with Tmac is that his athleticism seems to be declining at an alarming rate, he no longer gets by players with ease, and seems to really struggle against younger more athletic players....

    In addition, this year has been realitively healthy, so it may be the last time you can trade him for extreme value.....

    I would not just trade him to trade him, but he is far from untouchable to me anymore.

    In all honesty, to me, I would like to see Tmac at the Point SG/SF spot with an attacking penetrator at the PG too.....we need someone else that can initiate the offense......when Tmac struggles.

    DD
     
  16. abc2007

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    In fact, it is not Tmac who is not tough enough, instead, it is the fans who cannot afford Tmac's injury! We all know that, if Tmac was out, the season would be over! Fans are scared!!!
     
  17. Blake

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    I get where you are coming from, but I don't like the idea of building completely around a big man who now has an alarming history of leg/foot injuries. I want this to be Yao's team (and I think it was pre-injury), but I think we are better off with the team we have (including TMac) than we would be with a bunch of role players. If Yao has ANOTHER 50 game season, we are screwed without an offensive focal point to draw double teams
     
  18. Htowns_Finest

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    I agree with every single word you said!
     
  19. Htowns_Finest

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    Nice post!
     
  20. pmac

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    wow.... i uh... was waiting to hear some bashing...

    you are completely right

    but those are the reasons we should have traded him 1 or 2 years ago, i saw the tragic decline then. I think everyone else in the league has seen it also. I think his atheleticsm is much worse than most people think too, I don't think there are many backcourt players with as little athleticism as he has.

    Most of the time he get by people strictly on his superior triple threat skills and post ups, almost never by just blowing past them.

    I just don't see anyone being dumb enough to give us sufficient value back. Do you?

    I think you're other idea of getting a penetrating PG and wing player to put around him with tmac playing the 3 is a much more feasable idea. But of course what would happen to Battier?

    I don't think you can win regularly when you are overmatched atheletically all the time at every position like we are. I think we would do much better playing Landry a quick 3 and a quick PG.
     

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