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Yao Ming Quits Rockets Just to Play for Olympics??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. pryuen

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    I could be over-reacting......... :eek:

    But it sounds like John Calipari was saying if there is no 2008 Olympics, Yao Ming could skip the surgery and continue playing....cos he said the only reason why Yao Ming took the great lengths for the surgery is such that he could get back in time for the Olympics.

    But he has to understand the stress fracture on the ankle is career-threatening. Even without the Olympics, Big Yao had to have the surgery.
     
  2. cyjtsj

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    haha,he's good at Chinese to English...............
     
  3. bbjai

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    Ok lets put it this way I can see this point
    Yao could have chosen NON SURGURY. Correct?
    now correct me if im wrong but this would mean he potentially could play in the playoffs (WCF, NBA finals) if we made it that far. By electing surgury he can't?

    I think the point is valid, but like you said a stress fracture is career threatening he wouldn't have chosen the non surgury approach and play in the playoffs lightly. By choosing surgury he has automatically subracted himself from any playoffs we play in, Including the WCF if we made it that far
     
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    That would be the Spurs and the Cavaliers. They can take out Big Z, Varejao, and Pavlovic. For replacements in the rotation, they had Scott Pollard, Ira Newble and David Wesley for the 2007 Finals.

    Cavaliers would be undersized, but it might not matter in international ball.

    For the Spurs, they can replace Oberto, Parker, Ginobili and Udrih with Matt Bonner, Jackie Butler and Melvin Ely. Jacque Vaughn could start at PG, since they have no other american PGs.

    The Spurs would have to retool their offense. They would lack guard penetration, without Parker and Ginobili.
     
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    Can you highlight the part of the quote that says Yao could skip the surgery and keep playing if it weren't for the 2008 Olympics? I keep going over the same quotes and can't find it.
     
  6. jboslett

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    Just another misinterpretation in the GARM :rolleyes: .
     
  7. BrooksBall

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    Pruyen, you still don't get it. Yao could not, and would not, have played the rest of this season for the Rockets no matter which path he chose.

    By expediting the process of learning his options and electing to have surgery, he increased his chances of properly healing in time for the Olympics.

    We appreciate everything you do in here but you shouldn't jump to conclusions based on interpretations of your second language.

    Calipari did not mean anything negative with those comments.
     
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    I can see how it can be interpreted that way, but IMO that's what Calipari's saying. He is talking about the timing of the operation, and how Yao factored the Olympics into his decision. I don't think he's implying that Yao could have continued to play if the Olympics weren't a factor. Rather, he's trying to emphasize that international players like Yao take national team duties seriously.
     
  9. Cannonball

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    No, he's saying that Yao could have rested and healed naturally over a longer period of time but missed the Olympics. He's commending Yao for opting to have surgery in order to get back on the court in time for the Olympics. If anything, it's a compliment.
     
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    “It’s like guerrilla warfare, where the other guy is willing to die for his cause and you’re not. Now all of a sudden there’s a different mentality, and you’re not winning.”


    with a quote like that...

    calipari > ernesto guevara :) viva calipari!
     
  11. Spacemoth

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    Calipari probably knows more about guerilla warfare than most people. Lords knows how many skeletons he's got in his closet getting the kind of talent he's always managed to get at his mid-major conference schools. It might make Kelvin Sampson blush.
     
  12. zerhoe

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    Garnett played in 2000 in Sydney with Vince. There's that awesome vid of Vince dunking over the 7" guy and then celebrating by screaming two inches away from Garnett, who is screaming equally loud and fiercely at him.

    As for the thread, coach meant nothing by it. Non-surgery would have taken longer to heal, thus Yao took the surgery option to heal faster and play in the olympics. Everyone knows Yao was out for the season regardless of what procedure he took to heal.
     
  13. hooroo

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    no, the non surgery option would have taken one month longer to heal.
     
  14. hooroo

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    all he is saying is yao is dedicated.
     
  15. beijing boy

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    whatever,the most important thing is his career
     
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    Lost in Translation
     
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    where in that article does it even remotely imply that he quit the rockets to play in the olympics?

    DR's ADVISED HIM TO HAVE TO SURGERY TO COMPLETELY REPAIR THE BONE. FOR HIS CAREER, NEXT SEASON, AND THE OLYMPICS.
     
  18. bloop

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    lmfao, tell that to john chaney.

    calipari is a good college coach but he's shot his mouth off plenty. and there are PLENTY of programs in the country that hate him. for an encore why dont you talk about how beloved rick pitino is in the state of KY?

    well, my English reading comprehension is pretty good and I ended up where he did. why dont you try going back and reading the part where Calipari says "“He had surgery for one reason — so he can play and represent China in the Olympics." what part of ONE REASON dont you understand? what part of factually incorrect statement do you not understand. Yao did get surgery for ONE REASON, that ONE REASON was he needed it ASAP. the timing of it had nothing to do with the olympics and nothing to do with representing china. everything calipari said was incorrect, misinformed and misguided. yet you all are going after pryuen for pointing out Calipari is talking **** by attacking the man's english? let's ignore the substantive part of his criticism and just keep mentioning that he's from china. that's class.

    whether pryuen is this funny chinese guy who obsesses over yao and is a conspiracy nutjob isn't the point. the point is Calipari is talking out of his ass about a situation he has no idea about. in fact, I'm certain Calipari does not even know what type of injury Yao had. because if he realized it was a stress fracture he would know there was no leeway in his surgery.

    I really dont understand the convoluted rationale and backtracking on this thread... calipari talks about guerrilla warfare "where a guy is willing to die for his cause." gee I wonder what he's talking about? what's Yao's "sacrifice"? in what manner is he willing to bite the bullet and take a "death sentence" in his other commitments??? oh I dont know... maybe... is he talking about TANKING HIS SEASON so he can get surgery early and be ready for the olympics? OP's title is correct.

    and the rest of the article is stupid. the reason why the US doesn't win gold anymore is because the rest of the world is that good. it has 0 to do with patriotism it has 0 to do with motivation. American athletes for the vast number of olympic sports are MORE patriotic and go through MORE hardship than almost any other nation in the world. Even for major sports such as gymnastics most of these men and women only train full-time part-time when they're not working or going to school. Before every olympics there's some story about some dude working at Home Depot to support his olympic dreams. Even for crap sports like archery and synchronized swimming almost every other country supports those people full time and gives them stipends and monetary incentives. Calipari is a dumbass... patriotism? weak mentality? that's crap. as for olympic gold, even if the US wins in 2008 it'll be the exception not the rule. the bottom line is that the NBA is a business, there are no financial incentives to give players a big chunk of the year for multiple years off for olympic basketball. we'll probably be focused every 2nd or 3rd olympics but look at the toll all-year training has had on yao... 82 games + international ball does not mix. and we're not talking china or germany where 12-15 guys train full year and you drop in 1 superstar for the key tournaments, we're talking entire teams training and competing as a unit year after year
     
  19. pmac

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    I think he was talking about the best guys not being involved, especially the veterans.

    Getting married was probably a decent excuse IMO for Tracy and i don't think they asked him back this time. Alot of the other guys just seem to not be interested. Imagine KG coming off the bench instead of Bosh, Ray Allen instead of Redd, Paul Pierce instead of Joe Johnson (yea, the Celtics are stacked).

    I think part of the problem is the olympics is played the way that they play. You can goaltend and its a tip in, you can flop in the paint and its a foul, they call traveling if someone makes a fast move to the basket. I remember watching Lebron get called for traveling like everyother drive (suspiciously it was always after he got by his man and scored).
     
  20. AggNRox

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    Calipari is highly recognized a good college bball coach but he is not highly recognized a bone expert. his thought on yao's operation is completely BS. he should stop guessing what other people mind set. he is totally failed on this topic. if one of his players had bone stress fracture, i don't think he would tell him to continue to play and to ignore doctor opinion.

    the factor:

    the rox team doctor who checked yao's injury said clearly the surgery was the best option a week before yao made the decision. yao went to get other doctors opinion and came back with the decision of doing surgery. of course, yao can insist to play but the doctor will not give him a green light. it is the doctor's responsibility to take care of patients.

    i just don't understand how other people came up this stupid assumption what yao did just for chinese olympics. you won't tell me you don't care if you see a doctor and he told you need a sugery on your bone othewise you would limp in your rest life, would you?
     

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