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the Notorious Rafer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by aussie rocket, Mar 23, 2008.

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  1. DaDakota

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    Totally bullcrap. You guys try to make up something out of nothing. Alston is having his best shooting season as a Rocket.
     
  3. Jeff Who

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    I'm not saying that he's having bad season or something like that. I only wanna see Rafer shooting the ball pretty well for a longer period of time. I wanna see him attackin the rim. I wanna see him being a playmaker and playing well in the playoffs. That's all
     
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    Hmmm, that is true, but that doesn't mean it is good......

    40% is hardly a great shooting percentage, but it is Rafer's best as a Rocket.

    So there are 2 ways of looking at it.

    1. Rafer is improving, he is shooting his best percentage for the Rockets

    or

    2. Rafer is sucking less than he normally does.

    :D

    DD
     
  5. pmac

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    not a chance
     
  6. abc2007

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    His field goal attempt is 12.4, similar to Marion, even higher than Nash and Billups!

     
  7. JujuxG

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    if ralfer keep playin like this, i hope the coach would put bj to start instead of him,until ralfer can get his game up.
     
  8. abc2007

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    Scola's fg% is 51.1%, his fga is 7.9.

    Battier's fg% is 43.7%, his fga is 7.6.

    Rafer's fg% is 40%, but his fga is 12.4.

    Rafer takes too many shots. If a play's fg% is not over 40%, he should control his shots under 10 per game.
     
  9. pmac

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    You have a very valid point but you can't compare those fowards' shooting percentages to a guards (especially one who is mainly a shooter in the offense) because he naturally is taking more low percentage shots.
     
  10. abc2007

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    OK. Let's see some other pgs:

    Nash's fg% is 51.6%, his fga is 12.1

    Billups' fg% is 44.6%, his fga is 11.5

    Calderon's fg% is 53.2%, his fga is 9.1

    Fisher's fg% is 43.9%, his fga is 9.6
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  11. sammy

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    this shows that he needs to shoot less esp when he is having an off night

    it seemed like he single-handedly got us in a double digit deficit against phx in the first q

    i can feel when my shot is off and thats when i try to shoot less and use my energy on D and hustle plays.
     
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    That is a good comparison because he is more of the jump shooting type. The other three are way out of his league.

    His amount of attempts aren't really the problem as much as the type. Most guys understand what they can and can't make and stay within themselves, he doesn't.
     
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    btw: Fisher plays 10 less mpg that Alston. So, you need to take that into account.

    Also, 12.4 fga/gm at 40% is not unheard of. If any PG in the league knows the importance of passing vs shooting too much when you're not that great a shooter, it is Jason Kidd. He averages 12.7 fga lifetime at 40% and 33.5% 3s.

    I'm not trying to say Kidd isn't great, much better than Alston. I'm just saying the Kidd is the prime example of a HOF pg who can pass the ball the best of anyone, and he still shot the same as Alston. Being such a great passer, you'd think he could shoot a lot less times.

    Point is, PGs often have to shoot as the clock is winding down. Guys like Scola aren't taking the buzzer beaters as much. That puts roughly 1-2 fga per game on his stats. Plus, he doesn't draw many fouls...like Parker does. That means nearly everytime he shoots it counts as a FGA, where's drives that draw fouls don't count as FGA if you miss them, but get fouled.
     
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    Rafer doesn't have the mid range game he can go to when his 3's aren't falling. He has two games 3 and the floater. If those are off he forgets that a 15 ft sam cassell pull up counts for 2.
     
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    But playoffs have not even started yet. Of course everybody knows we need to address something about our PG and our backup Center situation this offseason. But this thread is refering to Rafer Alston of this year not Rafer Alston of next year. So all my points where based on this season's team if you read what I wrote.
     
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    well, the trade deadline has long come and gone; and morey has probably looked at every serviceable big man who is eligible and willing to join our team. so there's not much left to do or even think about for this season. let's just hope somehow rafer can get it together for the balance of the season and woods actually gives us reasons to resign him.
     
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    40% shooting and 1.6 FTA per game are horrible stats for any position in this league. The combination is unheard of.
     
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    The point is that Kidd aslo averages 9.2 assists lifetime, but Rafer doesn't!

    And, Kidd is a special case. Most pgs have good fg%.

    BTW, you know what is amazing about Rafer? He is playing with 2 superstars and he is still able to take so many shots! We really should be grateful to have Battier and Scola and some other rockets. They are true team players.

     
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    Rafer has been averaging well over 5 APG for the past four years including this season at 5.5. His first season in Houston he was at 6.7 for the season. :eek:

    Rafer's assists, turnovers or even steals have not been his problem.

    His problem is his FG%.
     
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    consistency from the point guard position is Enormous..... for any team... For Us especially since we need a ball-handler to generally set up our offense and we have so few quality ones.

    He is without a doubt the most steady ball handler, you never hear him getting bashed like Francis for turning it over on the dribble. His defense is adequate, no thing spectacular but not a major liability.

    The thing is he doesn't shoot well enough to offset the fact that he isn't a dominant floor general. At times he shoots well and its often for 3 or 4 games, but then he stinks it up for just as many games. When he is having an off night he doesn't do what T-Mac does and find other ways to contribute, he forces it.

    His attitude isn't great. You can tell he REALLY wants to be the 3rd guy on this team behind Yao and Tmac but he just doesn't have the ability to legitamately be that guy. At 31 he probably is at his peak, he might become craftier but i doubt it will make much a difference.

    Its funny because we dont need a kidd or nash type point guard we need a chauncey billiups,someone who can control the ball but also score, but isn't going to make all the crazy passes....



    that in a nutshell is the disease known as Rafer Madness!
     

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