You wanna know what I'm saying? T-Mac is a better all around basketball player than Miller. Yao is better than Smits. Scola and Landry are at least as good or better than Antonio Davis and Del Davis. Travis Best and Alston a wash. So you know what that means? We can advance far into the playoffs with a healthy Yao, T-Mac, Scola, Landry, and Alston. Plus our bench is much deeper than that Indiana bench. The missing ingredient this year in our push to the Playoffs is Yao. By the way, how often was Shaq injured with various toe injuries, thigh bruises, etc and not traded? Lets call a spade a spade. You and Doctor no nothing are Yao haters. Pure and simple.
You guys are really overrating Yao Ming. Yes I believe hes the best center in the world when healthy, but lets get real this has become a problem almost every year. How can we win a championship without Yao Ming? How can we win a championship depending on his health every year? We could be out of the playoffs this year because of his stress facture, or we could have been title contenders if not for his injury. He's getting older, and while some people say hes been improving each year he still hasn't become injury free and built to do it for a full 82 games+16 playoffs = 98 games. Taller players (centers) have bigger health risks then others. With Marion and Rose (The next CP3) our starting lineup would be monsterous. We would have a franchise caliber PG, not to mention we have our MLE to add some free agents. PG - Rose/Rafer SG - TMac/Battier/Head SF - Marion/Battier PF - Landry/Scola/Hayes C - Does it really matter? Dominant centers are the thing of the past we can get away with a free agent like: Diop, Biedrins, Okafor, Kurt Thomas, Nesterovic, Alonzo, Mihm. This lineup makes us contenders now, rather then rely on Yao Ming's health every season, I hate to say it but I would pull this trade in a heart beat if it was offered to us.
LOL, nobady hates yao what are you talking about , just because i said that trade under certain conditions is interesting doesnt mean i hate yao, geez Its like a witch hunt on here sometimes
Oh really? Big men are dinosours on championship teams. Lets look at the last ten NBA champions. 1998 Bulls - 7'2" Luc Longly 1999 Spurs - D. Robinson and T. Duncan 2000 Lakers - Shaq 2001 Lakers - Shaq 2002 Lakers - Shaq 2003 Spurs - Duncan 2004 Pistons - B. Wallace 2005 Spurs - Duncan 2006 Heat - Shaq 2007 Spurs - Duncan You can only arguably say that the 2004 Pistons didn't have a true dominant 7 footer. Statistics are on my side.
I certainly know Iverson and Kidd caried those teams.I mean that if they didn't have Mutombo,maybe the way to the final wouldn't have been smoothly?At least Iverson+Anthony and Kidd+Carter didn't do the same thing. Yes,everyone care about money,include Yao.But we can say his major intention of playing basketball is not money.He dosen't need to care about money. The commercial contracts He refused last several years are more than 30 millions,cause he think they are not suitable,said by Yao team. I am not fighting against u.I am just expounding my thought clearly.
Yeah, I was going to say tell that to Shaq but you brought it up first. The truly scary thing is that either Duncan or Shaq have been a component in eight out of the last 10 championship teams.
Luc Longley and dominant in the same thought what blasphemy is this? Man that is just funny. The guys best year is 11 and 6. That's with Jordan and Pippen getting all the attention. The guy was out of the NBA at 32 and never started more than 68 games (mostly due to injury). His career average is 7 and 5. Whoa boy watch out for this beast of an Aussie. Now as far as your overall message yes it's true the demise of the big is vastly overated. Since Jordan's Bulls days no one has one without a great center. That doesn't mean I wouldn't make the trade. Miami would be the one saying no. A top 5 pick these days is valued very very close to a Yao Ming and Marion is an all-star caliber player. If the Rockets truely could make the deal I would. I love Yao but the guy is injury prone and getting this much return is too much to pass up. T-Mac, Marion, Battier, Landry, Scola, and who ever we pick would be a very dominant team. Just because it's been awhile since a non-Duncan/Shaq led team has won it (plus Wallace) doesn't mean you can't without a good center. You just have to have enough at the other positions to get through. Scola, Landry, Marion, T-Mac are all good 6-10 rebounders so we wouldn't just get dominanted on the boards.
Let's trade Yao and become another Sun? Why Sun make such a gamble to trade Marion for Shaq?They have a good Regular season record.Cuz they know only a dominant C can help them to get a Ring,to fight against TD,Gasol or something. An old Shaq help Wade to get a Ring,why can't Yao? If the trade really happened,I'll be disappointed..................
What a stupid trade. If I were Miami I would make it in a heartbeat and then laugh my ass off at the Rockets for making the deal.
You guys are really overrating Yao Ming. Yes I believe hes the best center in the world when healthy, but lets get real this has become a problem almost every year. How can we win a championship without Yao Ming? How can we win a championship depending on his health every year? Ummm no, you're underrating him. 22-10 isn't easy to replace. We could be out of the playoffs this year because of his stress facture, or we could have been title contenders if not for his injury. He's getting older, and while some people say hes been improving each year he still hasn't become injury free and built to do it for a full 82 games+16 playoffs = 98 games. Taller players (centers) have bigger health risks then others. He's in his early to mid-20s, getting older? You act like he's in his mid-30s. With Marion and Rose (The next CP3) our starting lineup would be monsterous. We would have a franchise caliber PG, not to mention we have our MLE to add some free agents. PG - Rose/Rafer SG - TMac/Battier/Head SF - Marion/Battier PF - Landry/Scola/Hayes C - Does it really matter? Dominant centers are the thing of the past we can get away with a free agent like: Diop, Biedrins, Okafor, Kurt Thomas, Nesterovic, Alonzo, Mihm. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Miami is showing that you don't need a big man to win. Yao is getting older, lets get a young stud at center like Alonzo and Kurt Thomas. Since Yao is injury-prone lets get a healthy guy like Mihm at center, he's played 82 games a year the last 2 years and he's a real beast. This lineup makes us contenders now, rather then rely on Yao Ming's health every season, I hate to say it but I would pull this trade in a heart beat if it was offered to us. No it makes us an undersized, perimeter oriented team that's begging to get their asses beat in the first round. That's what that makes us. It didn't work for Phoenix so why would it work for us? Phoenix went out and got Shaq because they knew running and gunning wasn't going to win a championship. Do you secretly work for Pat Riley? In fact, are you really Pat Riley in disguise? It would explain why he hasn't been coaching Miami the last few games.
I agree this trade YAO in rox is wasting his time In his prime is wasting with T-mac T-mac in most time is playing like b**** YAO also like a b**** but YAO is not a leader of the team he is a best second leader with wade he can help wade get the championship but with Tmac they never broke the second round of the playoffs so just do it it's better for YAO I am a YAOfan
Man, this is a GREAT trade. Seriously. The Rockets TOTALLY got destroyed by the Celtics because they didn't have good enough wing defense. It wouldn't help at ALL to have someone tall in the center to dump the ball to.
Hey.....are you the Siamese Twin of Dr.-Who-Knows-Nothing-About-Basketball??? Did you read HOW he started name-calling and personal insulting me when he had NOTHING to come back to defend his STUPID trade proposal? http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=3565193&postcount=39 http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=3565273&postcount=41 And making comments like what you made, betting the future of the Rockets on an unproven rookie, and saying that Michael Beasley is going to be a beast and will be putting up better numbers than your Franchise Player next year is outrageously blasphemous. I'm ashamed to be among Rockets fans (if you're considered one) like that on this forum.
